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It's quite obvious that you've totally missed the gist of the article (if you've even read it) and that you harbor deep animosity towards some of the gentlest Christ loving people there are. But Andrew Fuller did the very same evil to John Gill, for no good reason.

 

You're a disappointment to yourself, here, because you know you are guessing.

What smear?

More thoughts behind the website: Doing theology in the light of the gospel of infinite grace – Mercy Upon All

We'll see.

You already said that.

oh, my wow...

 

Explain how this supports your smear of the Primitive Baptists. It's not even related, you're blowing smoke now to cover up how stupid and deceitful your knee jerk accusations are. You are one very DECEITFUL SHALLOW individual.

 

We're Gill and Fuller "inward Jews?"
If they were redeemed by Christ then they both were a part of the Israel of God.

 

More thoughts behind the website: Doing theology in the light of the gospel of infinite grace – Mercy Upon All

is a link further explaining the website you posted:

About mercyuponall.org – Mercy Upon All

Didn't you know you posted it?

They describe themselves.

Why did you post it?

Why do you post anything?

Are you supposed to have something to say?

Do Primitive Baptists believe anything?

What?

I know why Missionary Baptists and they split in 1832.

Or, are they all just sweet and lovely like you and your potty mouth?

I think you need to try and explain how:
"stupid and deceitful your knee jerk accusations are. You are one very DECEITFUL SHALLOW individual".

And, meanwhile, turn this around where it will do some good.

What smears?

Not yours.

The ones you are accusing me of.

What smears?

Start a new thread.

 

What a suprise

 

Are Arminians considered “inward Jews?” Do those who plan a strategy to infuse Arminian theology into Doctrines of Grace and Original biblical theology, are they not responsible for the Modern Religion we have dying on the vine today? These are the same who question the 5 doctrines, endlessly complaining that they are not relevant in todays world.

In summary Alan, should you deem it worthwhile to study the Old School Baptists Theology for understanding, then please do yourself a favor and both speak to and read from genuine Old School ppl & writings, check out sermons and connect with those churches…. Maybe visit them even, that way you get a flavor. Our brother Tyndall (Glen) would be a good resource as he has been in Prim churches a long, long, long time! Not Methuselah quite yet though ​

 

I like how you guys keep slipping the O.P. back into our split fiasco.

Clean deal.

7 "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings,

"that publishes peace; that bringeth good tidings of good,

"that publishes salvation; that saith unto Zion,
Thy God reigns!"

Isaiah 52:7

 

That was a joke and you know it . I have a sister who got spinal meningitis that burned out her brain stem & left her a veg, so did she need the scriptures to be saved? Isn’t God merciful? I maintain he is

 

I see it as a balancing act between justice & mercy, with mercy as His personal (if I can suggest that)favorite! Praise God from whom all blessings flow

And while I gots ya, I’d like to say that I’ve been fortunate to have known so many people from the OLD SCHOOL & PARTICULAR BAPTIST CHURCHES. They have all taught me things while being very patient with me. To all of them, sincere thanks!

 

An irreconcilable split occured back in the day, between Missionary Baptists and Hyper-Calvinists.

There were several points of doctrine at issue.

New thread:

Why the Split Among Baptists in 1832?

Both of you have questions regarding sentimentality toward various scenarios not specially addressed in the scriptures.

These three comments entirely exclude God's Justice and hatred for sin.

The middle one is, in fact, a different religion from the God of the Bible, etc.

God gives Mercy to whom He will have Mercy. You know that.

It's a philosophy that 'sounds good', doesn't it?

Maybe you don't see people as having sin(?) or God as hating sin(?).

My sin nailed His Son to the cross.

God hates sin.

Having the Bible as the first rule in faith and practice doesn't allow me to form Doctrines based on reason, speculation, or emotions.

Particularly, if those Doctrines are in direct opposition to clear Revelation.

You will disagree,...probably.

This stuff has been noted for a while.

Hyper-Calvinism was one of three errors which were attacking the Missionary position, then.

There are myriad more, today.

This is from:

The Spencer Journal
A publication of the J.H. Spencer Historical Society
Vol. 4 September 2012

"Circular Letters were written and distributed each year to the Baptist churches that were associated in particular areas of the nation. This practice began in England in the 17th century and continued in America until the late 19th century.

"The Northbend Association was in the northern-most section of Kentucky. Hyper-Calvinism (doctrines emphasizing the sovereignty of God , but not addressing the gospel to lost sinners) had caused a division in this and an adjacent association in 1840.

"Alexander Campbell's "Reformation" doctrines had entered the area in the 1830s.

"A Universalist congregation (denying the sinfulness of mankind and eternal judgment) was established in a major Boone County town in the 1840s.

"This circular deals with these three issues: Hyper-Calvinism, Campbellism and Universalism, with warnings to the Baptist churches to be aware of their doctrinal errors.

Northbend Association of Baptists (KY)
Circular Letter 1846
by James A. Kirtley, Pastor
Bullittsburg Baptist Church

"What is Truth?"

BELOVED BRETHREN:

"What is truth?" was a question propounded. The answer is readily supplied, "Thy word is truth." But error is the perversion of truth, and in this perversion it assumes different forms; hence the various systems of error. They are numerous, arrogant in their assumptions, fanatical in their extremes, and corrupt in their influence. Their blind votaries inflated with ignorant zeal and self-complacent bigotry, denouncing all who wisely and religiously differ, attribute to themselves the standard of primitive truth, and the pristine purity of the church. Ultraism is their prominent feature, they overleap the bounds of truth, and run in to dangerous extremes. Their tendency, moreover, is that of discord and corruption; an unholy influence is poured forth, like turbid waters from a foul fountain.

"But christianity which the word of truth reveals is not only pure and elevated in doctrine, but lovely in practice and holy in example. It is humble, peaceful, savory, enlightening, giving God the glory, and seeking the salvation of immortal souls. With such as our scriptural landmarks, we can but regard that system erroneous which burdens all things pertaining to the christian character and practice with irreconcilable decrees. Which deals more in eternal purposes than present evidences, or future realizations. - Which has for its principle and central tenet, that the present and ultimate state of man, 'ere he had a being, was eternally fixed by an immovable decree.

"Associated with this, is the wanton rejection of the divine command of Jesus, to preach the Gospel to every creature. The evident tendency of such, is, to stifle the vital principles of Christianity, while it virtually justifies the unhallowed practices, of worldly minded professors. Morbidness and insensibility are legitimate consequences, and all activity and energy is prostrated, save that carnal propensity, which tends to strifes, animosities, and dissensions. The inconsiderate advocates of such a system, "are wise to do evil, but to do good, they have no knowledge." - Jeremiah 4.22...."

New thread:

Why the Split Among Baptists in 1832?

 

I was just reading that he book”Doctrines of Grace” by the Presbyterian author and Pastor of Philadelphia Tenth Presbyterian Church, Dr. James Montgomery Boice… note he had terminal cancer when he wrote it and so this was last book.

so on pages 61-62…Fuller theological seminary regarded itself as being found in largely on Calvinistic principles. Yet openness to other perspectives gradually led the institution away from Reformed orthodoxy, especially in the doctrine of scripture.

Many other evangelical seminaries, colleges, associations, magazines, and publishing houses followed a similar path during the second half of the 20th century.

with Arminianism has come Pietism, a fervent devotion to Christ that is nonetheless more interested in personal experience in a biblical doctrine. The current evangelical preference for experience over doctrine can be demonstrated by pursuing the Shelves Of the average Christian bookstore. The problem with this preference, of course, is that even the warmest spirituality cannot be sustained without a solid basis in theology. In the absence of a coherent doctoral framework, today’s Pietist become tomorrow’s liberals.


Liberals LOL…there we have it, blended theology ( w/o a solid basis in theology) will produce sick and dying churches! Thanks Andrew Fuller!

 

Edwards as a preacher, had a propensity of scaring the heck out of people and in some cases causing women to go into hysterics! Would you say his brand of preaching was effective?

 

When Edwards read his sermon, he read it in a monotone voice with no emotion so that only the Spirit would move the people. Edwards was not the cause of anyone going into hysterics.

 

Still, was it his goal to scare people, which he did accomplish effectively. Was it his job to use fear and hellfire? What was his motivation? Wasn’t he usurping the job of the Holy Ghost? After all, we know that a reprobate will never surrender to Christ ( not in his nature to do so) and a child of God is guaranteed salvation. So what was his goal for presenting a fire & brimstone sermon? Just looking for some clarity here.