What Identifies A Christian As A Baptist?

I see Romans 6:3-4 as referring to the baptism of the Holy Ghost rather than water baptism.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Sharing a post from another thread in my search for water baptism by sprinkling.

Ezekiel 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

There are a lot of verses regarding the sprinkling of the blood that cleanses as well but I will not bother with that aspect.

The Book of Numbers also list a few references of the actual sprinkling of water for several cleansing purposes. Numbers 8:7 & Numbers 19:13 & Numbers 19:18-21

Nothing about sprinkling of water as a form of water baptism in the New Testament yet.

The one below is not to be taken as such an example.

Hebrews 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised

I am sure Hebrews 10:21-23 has nothing to do with water baptism, but the baptism with the Holy Ghost.

Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Anyway, so far, I find no New Testament example of water baptism by sprinkling but then again, it is the baptism with the Holy Ghost that counts for salvation rather than any specific form of water baptism to be insisted upon for discipleship.

 

Although there are scriptures testifying to actual water baptism by immersion, I believe some of those scriptural references are being misapplied because it is really about the baptism with the Holy Ghost.

I see Romans 6:3-4 as referring to the baptism of the Holy Ghost rather than water baptism.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Sharing a post from another thread in my search for water baptism by sprinkling.

Ezekiel 36:25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.

26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.

27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.

There are a lot of verses regarding the sprinkling of the blood that cleanses as well but I will not bother with that aspect.

The Book of Numbers also list a few references of the actual sprinkling of water for several cleansing purposes. Numbers 8:7 & Numbers 19:13 & Numbers 19:18-21

Nothing about sprinkling of water as a form of water baptism in the New Testament yet.

The one below is not to be taken as such an example.

Hebrews 10:21 And having an high priest over the house of God;

22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23 Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised

I am sure Hebrews 10:21-23 has nothing to do with water baptism, but the baptism with the Holy Ghost like Romans 6:3-4.

Titus 3:4 But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

6 Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

7 That being justified by his grace, we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.

Anyway, so far, I find no New Testament example of water baptism by sprinkling but then again, it is the baptism with the Holy Ghost that counts for salvation rather than any specific form of water baptism to be insisted upon for discipleship.

It seems the tagging system is not working for why I feel the need to repost the same kind of response.

 

Do reconsider that because by implying that Romans 6:3-4 is only referring to water baptism by immersion rather than the baptism with the Holy Ghost, then are you limiting salvation by water baptism by immersion?

I see Romans 6:3-4 as referring to the baptism of the Holy Ghost rather than water baptism.

Romans 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

You say it is symbolic but I read the result of said baptism for why I believe it is the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

 

I agree. It is found wanting in scripture for those insisting water baptism can only be done by immersion.

Although in my search, I have found verses in the Old Testament for the sprinkling of water that cleanses and even ones for blood that cleanses, but there is none in the New Testament albeit one has to wonder if the depths of water is always available for water baptism by immersion.

Since His hand is not shortened to save all who believe in Him without water baptism, then I would have to say that He is able to enable a saved believer to follow Him as His disciple without water baptism as well, regardless of the type of water baptism.

 

Which God does as man cannot have a hand in what God does.

Such as the commandment to do water baptism by immersion only is not given nor emphasized as the proper mode of water baptism. If the early New Testament churches, let alone the Lord Jesus Christ as the Head of the Church, saw the need to emphasize that, He would make sure the new believers and the churches down through the centuries would know that.

Even in the warning to the 5 of the 7 churches to repent or else and the exhortation to the 2 of the 7 churches to hold fast or else, we are not seeing the offense of not doing water baptism by immersion in that Book of Revelation and yet the majority of Christian denomination are hardly practicing it in these latter days.

 

I do not deny the scripture where they were "able" to hold water baptism by immersion but I do not believe that it is a commandment to specifically do that in order to be His disciples as a public witness.

I doubt very much His disciples would avoid areas where there is no depths of water to do a water baptism by immersion before preaching the gospel.

Just like not every moment in the Book of Acts did saved believers speak in tongues when having received the Holy Spirit.

 

Okay. Thanks for that information.