What Identifies A Christian As A Baptist?

For everyone to know why John of Japan claimed I was calling him an apostate was his response to what I was talking about here.

I know that some believers misapply Ephesians 5:18 as if exhorting believes to avoid getting drunk but instead seek a filling of the Holy Spirit but that is actually an apostate calling that ignores the warning in 2 Corinthians 11:2-4 when Ephesians 5:18 is just exhorting believers to say sober, as be filled with the Holy Ghost or remained filled with the Holy Spirit rather than getting drunk with wine.

Then in his post #49 he replied to that quoted comment as "You just called me an apostate."

That was him putting that shoe on himself as he identified himself with that false teaching.

So like it or not, John of Japan is drinking the Pentecostal's & Charismatic's Kool Aid whether he acknowledges this or not.

 

More than likely, you are referring to false teachings by Pentecostals & Charismatics that apply certain events in the Book of Acts as if saved believers are receiving the Holy Spirit more than once and it has filtered its way into the Baptist churches.

I am aware of the misapplication of scriptures, but I prefer that you show me which reference you are believing as if a saved believer can receive the Holy Spirit more than once.

FYI, John 14:25-26 is Jesus saying when the Comforter will come and that is when He is no longer present with them and so those 2 incidences that His disciples had received the holy Spirit, this was temporary per Matthew 10th chapter & John 20:22 since Jesus gave them that temporary infilling of the Holy Ghost.

John 14:1Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me. 2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

25 These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

So His remaining disciples were not officially saved as in born again of the Spirit until Pentecost.

But feel free to share any scriptures that has led you to believe otherwise, and God be willing, I shall get back to you or He will show you the truth ahead of time.

 

Since the role of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is performed by the Father & Jesus from Heaven for whenever anyone comes to & believe in Jesus Christ, there should be no four views on what that role is about the baptism of the Holy Ghost.

The role of the Holy Spirit can have different applications, but not role regarding the baptism with the Holy Spirit.

 

You misunderstood me. That reference is for when Jesus has ascended to the Father per John 14:1-3 for when the Father and Jesus send the promise of the forever indwelling Holy Ghost per John 14:16-17 & John 14:25-26.

The temporary indwelling of the Holy Ghost is referenced in Matthew 10th chapter and John 20:22 because Jesus was with them at that time.