Total depravity or total inability?

Dave... · 2025-10-06T13:33:24-0500

This is excellent!!!! also. The Quote by C.S. Lewis in this video concerning total depravity is really though provoking.

C.S. Lewis On Calvinism And Total Depravity

Brightfame52 · 2025-10-06T14:13:45-0500

Silverhair said:
BF many will be drawn to God through various means but not all will turn to Him in faith.

You continue to deny clear scripture.

False, drawing is regeneration, only the elect are regenerated and brought in believe in Christ.

Brightfame52 · 2025-10-06T14:14:48-0500

Silverhair said:
BF you continue to promote universalism when you say all that are drawn will be saved as we know Christ will draw all man to Himself. John 12:32

The all is the elect

Brightfame52 · 2025-10-06T14:16:38-0500

Silverhair said:
There you go denying clear scripture again.

The all are regenerated. Is all mankind regenerated? No so unregenerate man is not drawn

Brightfame52 · 2025-10-06T14:17:15-0500

Charlie24 said:
BF, have you ever been in a Church service under the anointed preaching and notice someone looking uncomfortable?

Maybe they seem unable to get situated in their seat, wiping their face continually, maybe breaking out in a cold sweat?

That is the drawing of the Holy Spirit under the conviction of sin. That is the drawing, and it doesn't have to be in a Church service to happen.

It can happen anywhere at any time when the Gospel is given to lost man.

That person under the conviction has to make a choice, letting it go without addressing it is a rejection.

Rabbit trail

Charlie24 · 2025-10-06T14:18:45-0500

Brightfame52 said:
The all is the elect

That is one of the many extremes the Calvinists must take in order to hold on to a dead theory!

Charlie24 · 2025-10-06T14:26:49-0500

Brightfame52 said:
Rabbit trail

It's how God intended for man to exercise his free will.

No one is in Hell because God chose not to draw them, they are in Hell because they rejected His Son.

And there are several ways that can be done!

Silverhair · 2025-10-06T15:39:52-0500

Brightfame52 said:
False, drawing is regeneration, only the elect are regenerated and brought in believe in Christ.

That is false calvinists teaching BF, it is not biblical.

Silverhair · 2025-10-06T15:43:31-0500

Brightfame52 said:
The all is the elect

Again you are teaching universalism BF.

Christ draws all [Jn 12:32] and you say all of them are the calvinist elect so all would be saved. So those drawn by Christ "that's everyone" would be saved, that's universalism.

Silverhair · 2025-10-06T15:46:21-0500

Brightfame52 said:
The all are regenerated. Is all mankind regenerated? No so unregenerate man is not drawn

One is only regenerated/saved after they have responded with faith to the various means that God uses to draw them.

So all the unregenerate are drawn just as Christ said He would do.

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