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Women Pastors?

MrW

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John Calvin on whether Paul's take on this should be followed slavishly:

"the hours set apart for public prayer, sermon, and solemn services; during sermon, quiet and silence, fixed places, singing of hymns, days set apart for the celebration of the Lord’s Supper, the prohibition of Paul against women teaching in the Church, and such like....things of this nature are not necessary to salvation, and, for the edification of the Church, should be accommodated to the varying circumstances of each age and nation, it will be proper, as the interest of the Church may require, to change and abrogate the old, as well as to introduce new forms. I confess, indeed, that we are not to innovate rashly or incessantly, or for trivial causes. Charity is the best judge of what tends to hurt or to edify: if we allow her to be guide, all things will be safe....these are not fixed and perpetual obligations to which we are astricted....in those matters the custom and institutions of the country...declare what is to be done or avoided." —John Calvin, in his Institutes, IV.10.29-30
Once more, Calvin is wrong.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
John Calvin on whether Paul's take on this should be followed slavishly:

"the hours set apart for public prayer, sermon, and solemn services; during sermon, quiet and silence, fixed places, singing of hymns, days set apart for the celebration of the Lord’s Supper, the prohibition of Paul against women teaching in the Church, and such like....things of this nature are not necessary to salvation, and, for the edification of the Church, should be accommodated to the varying circumstances of each age and nation, it will be proper, as the interest of the Church may require, to change and abrogate the old, as well as to introduce new forms. I confess, indeed, that we are not to innovate rashly or incessantly, or for trivial causes. Charity is the best judge of what tends to hurt or to edify: if we allow her to be guide, all things will be safe....these are not fixed and perpetual obligations to which we are astricted....in those matters the custom and institutions of the country...declare what is to be done or avoided." —John Calvin, in his Institutes, IV.10.29-30
And now we can all go to the Countess of Huntingdon’s Connexion with the blessing of John Calvin.

the custom and institutions of the country...declare what is to be done or avoided." -Calvin

That sounds an awful lot like “we ought to obey men rather than God” to me.
 

Charlie24

Well-Known Member
There’s been an ongoing discussion within the Southern Baptist Convention about the question of whether women should be permitted to serve as pastors in churches.

1 Timothy 2:12 (ESV)
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

Most Baptists and conservative evangelicals understand this passage to mean that women are not allowed to take a position of authority over a man in the church. Others interpret it as meaning that a woman could serve as a pastor if male leadership granted her that authority.

Which view is correct, and why?

The Holy Spirit refers to the great apostle Paul as the master Church builder.

If Paul gives us no hint of a woman having the qualifications to be a pastor, who is the man who says a woman does have that qualification?
 
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