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Mary and the recent Papal teaching

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Charlie24

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Cathode said:
Let's examine the countless popes in Bible alonism, for every protesting denomination there is a self appointed figure who proports to interpret the public revelation of Scripture for all. It doesn't matter if he or she interprets doctrines in complete confliction to all others.

Catholics only have one Pope, and a singular Apostolic tradition to explain Scripture



Squabbles?

Even the devil can quote scripture to suit his purpose. This was demonstrated at the temptation of The Lord in the desert.

Bible alonism birthed relativism into the modern world, where each man thinks he can interpret what the Bible means to him.

Forget Truth setting you free, fallible human opinion is just as good they said.

Forget every heretic quotes scripture to support his pet heresy.

It's not the Authority of Scripture at question, it's the Authority of those who interpret Scripture that matters.

The Catholic Church has Apostolic Authority, first demonstrated by determining the Canon itself, no one else did that.
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No, the RCC does not have Apostolic Authority, they imagine from Scripture what is not there.

You should know by now we are having none of this, Cathode.
 
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Cathode

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Charlie24 said:
No, the RCC does not have Apostolic Authority, they imagine from Scripture what is not there.

You should know by now we are having none of this, Cathode.
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Of cause you will have none of it.

The Prejudiced narrative is a beast far beyond your power to deal with. This enemy is beyond you.

You cover your eyes from the evidence of the Fathers, lest you turn to stone, you block your ears lest the cognitive dissonance ring your skull like a bell.

The Bible came from The Catholic Apostolic Church that preserved the scriptures from the Apostles and determined the Canon in the first place.

" Without the Catholic Church, we have no Bible " Professor Peter Flint, Baptist translator of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
 
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Charlie24

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Cathode said:
Of cause you will have none of it.

The Prejudiced narrative is a beast far beyond your power to deal with. This enemy is beyond you.

You cover your eyes from the evidence of the Fathers, lest you turn to stone, you block your ears lest the cognitive dissonance ring your skull like a bell.

The Bible came from The Catholic Apostolic Church that preserved the scriptures from the Apostles and determined the Canon in the first place.

" Without the Catholic Church, we have no Bible " Professor Peter Flint, Baptist translator of the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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Yes, I agree! One last act of God through the Church before it began its descendance into heresy.
 
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Cathode

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Charlie24 said:
Yes, I agree! One last act of God through the Church before it began its descendance into heresy.
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That's unscriptural, because Jesus promised that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church, let alone let it fall into total heresy.

The narrative you propose is completely illogical.
 
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Charlie24

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Cathode said:
That's unscriptural, because Jesus promised that the Gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church, let alone let it fall into total heresy.

The narrative you propose is completely illogical.
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It was at that time of cannon of Scripture being determined that the dark ages began.

That was the time in this world when the Word of God was hidden from man by the RCC.

But God worked His magic and placed in the heart of our Reformers the way back to Him.
 
Ascetic X

Ascetic X

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Cathode said:
What you are posting here is prejudicial filler?

The whole premise you hold is based on the idea that the Church corrupted completely for 1500 years, fell into pagan syncretism. This is historical revisionism that doesn't accord with Christian history.

Bible aloners are very prone to this, because they have no history beyond 500 years old, so a prejudiced legend has to be fabricated. Anything prior to 500 years ago has to narrate Catholicism in a negative light, thus justifying their rebellion against the Catholic Church.

Lazy glazed eyes that don't want to find anything but the narrative they want, are actually robbing themselves preferring revisionist mythology.

I don't see intellectual honesty much among Bible aloners, one admission to a truth leads to others, so they never admit one point, they can never admit one point, this how they are known. Slaves to the narrative. Total corruption till the second messiah Luther appeared preaching a different Gospel.

If they can privately interpret The Holy Word of God, they can even more easily privately interpret Christian history to suit themselves. Truth doesn't matter to them….
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I think you mean “historical revisionism that doesn't accord with official Catholic history.”

What puzzles me is why a Catholic would want to spend time debating theology on a Baptist forum. I seek common ground with Christians of all denominations. But I don’t go to their forums and argue. However, I hope we all learn and grow together.

I won’t attack anyone personally due to a difference in theology.

The weakest point in Catholicism tends to be the popes and their sometimes bizarre statements.

I have a lot of respect for such Catholics as Fenelon, St. Augustine, Thomas a Kempis, St. John of the Cross, John Michael Talbot, St. Benedict, St. Charbel, St. Catherine of Senna, St. Teresa of Avila, Mechthilde of Magdeburg, Marguerite Porette, and others.
 
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Ascetic X said:
I think you mean “historical revisionism that doesn't accord with official Catholic history.”

What puzzles me is why a Catholic would want to spend time debating theology on a Baptist forum. I seek common ground with Christians of all denominations. But I don’t go to their forums and argue. However, I hope we all learn and grow together.

I won’t attack anyone personally due to a difference in theology.

The weakest point in Catholicism tends to be the popes and their sometimes bizarre statements.

I have a lot of respect for such Catholics as Fenelon, St. Augustine, Thomas a Kempis, St. John of the Cross, John Michael Talbot, St. Benedict, St. Charbel, St. Catherine of Senna, St. Teresa of Avila, Mechthilde of Magdeburg, Marguerite Porette, and others.
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Why do you suppose that this particular forum exists. It is an 'other denominations/other Christians forum'. The purpose is to discuss our various doctrines and hopefully learn from each other.

I appreciate your respect for the list of Catholics in your post. I always appreciate your perspective. But, one reason I remain a member of the BB after becoming Catholic is because of the misunderstanding and false claims of many evangelicals about Catholic teaching. If Cathode and I weren't here, a lot of people who simply read the BB and not post would only read some very biased and often erroneous claims about the Catholic Church.
 
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