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canadyjd

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I am seeing reports there was an agent in front of the vehicle. He may have been taking the cell phone video that I saw.

In every video I’ve seen, she pulls forward, stops, apparently to let that person move and starts again. That is when she is shot.

For this to be lawful, he must be lawfully engaged in his duties. Why was he in front of her vehicle? Because she was blocking the road? He cannot enforce local traffic laws.

Very tragic for all involved.

Thanks for the info. I’m not sure it changes anything, as I said before.

I suppose the best thing to do is wait for all the info to get out.

Peace to you
 

Ben1445

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I am seeing reports there was an agent in front of the vehicle. He may have been taking the cell phone video that I saw.

In every video I’ve seen, she pulls forward, stops, apparently to let that person move and starts again. That is when she is shot.

For this to be lawful, he must be lawfully engaged in his duties. Why was he in front of her vehicle? Because she was blocking the road? He cannot enforce local traffic laws.

Very tragic for all involved.

Thanks for the info. I’m not sure it changes anything, as I said before.

I suppose the best thing to do is wait for all the info to get out.

Peace to you
What sense I have made of what is have heard is that the vehicle to the passenger side of her vehicle was stuck in the snow.
Groups had been harassing ICE and following them around according to Noem. The vehicle with the two officers arriving I presume were there for backup. It was not ever presented as a traffic stop. It sounded more like interference with their duties. All that has not been released on video.

I am content to wait for complete reports. I am just sharing info that I have found.
I personally feel sorry for Immigration and Customs Enforcement because I appreciate that they are doing a job that needs to be done in areas where they don’t have local support. It makes for a difficult situation. Pray for them. They are serving their country.
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
What sense I have made of what is have heard is that the vehicle to the passenger side of her vehicle was stuck in the snow.
Groups had been harassing ICE and following them around according to Noem. The vehicle with the two officers arriving I presume were there for backup. It was not ever presented as a traffic stop. It sounded more like interference with their duties. All that has not been released on video.

I am content to wait for complete reports. I am just sharing info that I have found.
I personally feel sorry for Immigration and Customs Enforcement because I appreciate that they are doing a job that needs to be done in areas where they don’t have local support. It makes for a difficult situation. Pray for them. They are serving their country.
Agreed and pray for the children of the woman killed.

They are in, perhaps, a slightly more difficult situation.

Peace to you
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
Why was the ICE agent standing in front of her vehicle taking a video with a cell phone? Was that part of his duties?

Did he literally shoot this woman and never put the cell phone down? Is that accurate?

Peace to you
 

canadyjd

Well-Known Member
I have seen a report that the woman’s wife was talking to the agent in front of the car that fired the fatal shot. She was taunting him to come after her. He was taking a cell video of her.

When the other officers arrive, she gets into the vehicle and tells her wife to “get out of here”. The agent is still in front. She pulls forward slightly, stops. Another agent approaches he’s from the side and tells her to get out of the vehicle, she pulls forward again and is shot.

Not sure if this helps or hurts either position.

Peace to you
 

Scarlett O.

Moderator
Moderator
I, too, am waiting for all information to accurately come out. I have opinions, but am keeping them to myself until I feel that the whole and accurate truth comes to light. Both of the far extremes are too much for me to converse with right now.
 
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