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Guido

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To again behold [trochee], it is my hope, for which a long time I have asked of God. But not known to me is any appearing of [trochee] before my eyes, after her departing from me in the hospital, and after the dawning of my yearning to see her a new time. But it is my longing to behold her again, and to stablish and sustain a mighty bond with her, and to manifest kindness to her forevermore, which, in our common time in the hospital, I failed to show with abundance, and with steadfastness.
 

Ascetic X

Well-Known Member
To again behold [trochee], it is my hope, for which a long time I have asked of God. But not known to me is any appearing of [trochee] before my eyes, after her departing from me in the hospital, and after the dawning of my yearning to see her a new time. But it is my longing to behold her again, and to stablish and sustain a mighty bond with her, and to manifest kindness to her forevermore, which, in our common time in the hospital, I failed to show with abundance, and with steadfastness.
Was Trochee your wife? Have you beheld her in dreams? I saw my beloved deceased wife in a dream last night. Not sure if that is pleasant or just bewildering. We don’t fully know what we’ve got until it’s gone. I am sure that when a loved person departs, we are always tormented by regrets about how we should have treated them better, but focus instead on how good you were, and be grateful that you were not much worse.
 

Guido

Active Member
Was Trochee your wife? Have you beheld her in dreams? I saw my beloved deceased wife in a dream last night. Not sure if that is pleasant or just bewildering. We don’t fully know what we’ve got until it’s gone. I am sure that when a loved person departs, we are always tormented by regrets about how we should have treated them better, but focus instead on how good you were, and be grateful that you were not much worse.

She was not my wife, and is not my wife. I am not married.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
Was Trochee your wife? Have you beheld her in dreams? I saw my beloved deceased wife in a dream last night. Not sure if that is pleasant or just bewildering. We don’t fully know what we’ve got until it’s gone. I am sure that when a loved person departs, we are always tormented by regrets about how we should have treated them better, but focus instead on how good you were, and be grateful that you were not much worse.

What is a trochee? Here’s a quick and simple definition:

A trochee is a two-syllable metrical pattern in poetry in which a stressed syllable is followed by an unstressed syllable. The word "poet" is a trochee, with the stressed syllable of "po" followed by the unstressed syllable, “et”: Po-et.


It is a term referring to poetry.
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
Should I just give up on the person I wrote this poem about?

I wouldn’t be able to give you an accurate answer to that question.
God knows. Take your concerns to Him. He gives wisdom.

Would, "God give me the one to Love with your Love that you have had Planned for me (and her) from Eternity Past", help any?

There is a Time for every Purpose under Heaven.

When God knows that you know that you are in the Spiritual Realm of desiring to exercise a Godly Giving Quality of Agape Love, as opposed to a fleshly self-seeking manner to only 'receive', then the Season for True Love begins to be Set in place.

Is this individual Spiritually Saved, to have the Spiritually Capability to Spiritually Love you back, as you Love her?, so that "Love never fails"?

For the Lord to Give you someone with THE SAME QUALITY OF LOVE AS HE HAS GIVEN YOU, is Paramount, then you continue learning and allow Him to 'Groom' you and Teach you HOW TO LOVE.

When you are ready, He will Bring her to you, once you are in the proper Spiritual attitude to then 'Receive', because you are majoring on 'Giving'.
 

Guido

Active Member
Would, "God give me the one to Love with your Love that you have had Planned for me (and her) from Eternity Past", help any?

There is a Time for every Purpose under Heaven.

When God knows that you know that you are in the Spiritual Realm of desiring to exercise a Godly Giving Quality of Agape Love, as opposed to a fleshly self-seeking manner to only 'receive', then the Season for True Love begins to be Set in place.

Is this individual Spiritually Saved, to have the Spiritually Capability to Spiritually Love you back, as you Love her?, so that "Love never fails"?

For the Lord to Give you someone with THE SAME QUALITY OF LOVE AS HE HAS GIVEN YOU, is Paramount, then you continue learning and allow Him to 'Groom' you and Teach you HOW TO LOVE.

When you are ready, He will Bring her to you, once you are in the proper Spiritual attitude to then 'Receive', because you are majoring on 'Giving'.

Thank you for the advice.
 

Guido

Active Member
Would, "God give me the one to Love with your Love that you have had Planned for me (and her) from Eternity Past", help any?

There is a Time for every Purpose under Heaven.

When God knows that you know that you are in the Spiritual Realm of desiring to exercise a Godly Giving Quality of Agape Love, as opposed to a fleshly self-seeking manner to only 'receive', then the Season for True Love begins to be Set in place.

Is this individual Spiritually Saved, to have the Spiritually Capability to Spiritually Love you back, as you Love her?, so that "Love never fails"?

For the Lord to Give you someone with THE SAME QUALITY OF LOVE AS HE HAS GIVEN YOU, is Paramount, then you continue learning and allow Him to 'Groom' you and Teach you HOW TO LOVE.

When you are ready, He will Bring her to you, once you are in the proper Spiritual attitude to then 'Receive', because you are majoring on 'Giving'.
So do you think I should give up on the person of whom I wrote in the OP?
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
But it is my longing to behold her again, and to stablish and sustain a mighty bond with her, and to manifest kindness to her
Can we say that establishing a bond on the level you are at in the Spirit is at all possible?

You sound like under the conditions, the two of you shared some pleasing moments.
So do you think I should give up on the person of whom I wrote in the OP?
In what way do you think you could elicit a response from her, that she may use to disclose to you what her take is on any steps she might entertain for you to get together more personally or get to know one another online, etc.?

You question is, would a note handwritten from you saying in you poetic way, "I enjoyed ___", etc., without being too forward, to just allow her to know that if she was intrigued and might like the thought about the two of you getting to know each other better, you would be O.K. with that and then see what she writes you back.

"Hi, thanks, I'm moving on."

or "Hi, thanks, How ARRE YOOU?"

A little bitty flower or a small bunch might force her hand to hopefully she would reply with a "Thank You" and that's it, or "Thank you, I really like them and they reminded me/us how much we enjoyed our time together", etc., etc.

That way you can see if there is a set up to begin again where you left off, or if this situation was just to give you certain comfort during those trying times and whatever you can take from it, if you're simply left enjoying the peace of not having a difficult or troubling relationship if it didn't work... :Cool;):Inlove
 

Guido

Active Member
Can we say that establishing a bond on the level you are at in the Spirit is at all possible?

You sound like under the conditions, the two of you shared some pleasing moments.

In what way do you think you could elicit a response from her, that she may use to disclose to you what her take is on any steps she might entertain for you to get together more personally or get to know one another online, etc.?

You question is, would a note handwritten from you saying in you poetic way, "I enjoyed ___", etc., without being too forward, to just allow her to know that if she was intrigued and might like the thought about the two of you getting to know each other better, you would be O.K. with that and then see what she writes you back.

"Hi, thanks, I'm moving on."

or "Hi, thanks, How ARRE YOOU?"

A little bitty flower or a small bunch might force her hand to hopefully she would reply with a "Thank You" and that's it, or "Thank you, I really like them and they reminded me/us how much we enjoyed our time together", etc., etc.

That way you can see if there is a set up to begin again where you left off, or if this situation was just to give you certain comfort during those trying times and whatever you can take from it, if you're simply left enjoying the peace of not having a difficult or troubling relationship if it didn't work... :Cool;):Inlove

I am not spiritually mature, it seems, and I don't even know if she is a Christian.

Neither did I ask that question -- though giving someone flowers is a good idea -- nor do I want to force anyone to do anything.

I have no way of contacting her.

Thank you for the advice.
 

Ben1445

Well-Known Member
I am not familiar with either of those works. Can you please summarize them?
Cyrano de Bergerac
This one is a situation of being afraid to confront. The man who wants to win the heart of his lady asks another man for help. The other is supposed to speak to her and pretend that he is his friend.
For whatever ever reason, too shy to find her.

Evangeline by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow?
This is a story of separated lovers whose story is about not being separated and not able to find each other. This is where the phrase “two ships passing in the night” comes from. (It may be a phrase that he used that was more common. I don’t know)
The idea here is that they wanted to find each other but didn’t know where to. It would be like wanting to meet someone again, shopping in the same stores at the same time but never seeing each other.
Since you said,
I have no way of contacting her.
Evangeline appears to be the situation.

At this point, I think the best thing to do is ask God for direction and wait patiently.
 
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Guido

Active Member
Cyrano de Bergerac
This one is a situation of being afraid to confront. The man who wants to win the heart of his lady asks another man for help. The other is supposed to speak to her and pretend that he is his friend.
For whatever ever reason, too shy to find her.

Evangeline by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow?
This is a story of separated lovers whose story is about not being separated and not able to find each other. This is where the phrase “two ships passing in the night” comes from. (It may be a phrase that he used that was more common. I don’t know)
The idea here is that they wanted to find each other but didn’t know where to. It would be like wanting to meet someone again, shopping in the same stores at the same time but never seeing each other.
Since you said,

Evangeline appears to be the situation.

At this point, I think the best thing to do is ask God for direction and wait patiently.

Thank you for the advice.
 

Guido

Active Member
Can we say that establishing a bond on the level you are at in the Spirit is at all possible?

You sound like under the conditions, the two of you shared some pleasing moments.

In what way do you think you could elicit a response from her, that she may use to disclose to you what her take is on any steps she might entertain for you to get together more personally or get to know one another online, etc.?

You question is, would a note handwritten from you saying in you poetic way, "I enjoyed ___", etc., without being too forward, to just allow her to know that if she was intrigued and might like the thought about the two of you getting to know each other better, you would be O.K. with that and then see what she writes you back.

"Hi, thanks, I'm moving on."

or "Hi, thanks, How ARRE YOOU?"

A little bitty flower or a small bunch might force her hand to hopefully she would reply with a "Thank You" and that's it, or "Thank you, I really like them and they reminded me/us how much we enjoyed our time together", etc., etc.

That way you can see if there is a set up to begin again where you left off, or if this situation was just to give you certain comfort during those trying times and whatever you can take from it, if you're simply left enjoying the peace of not having a difficult or troubling relationship if it didn't work... :Cool;):Inlove

Actually, I do not fully understand your post. I need to read it again more carefully.
 
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Guido

Active Member
Can we say that establishing a bond on the level you are at in the Spirit is at all possible?

I do not seem to be spiritually mature, nor do I know if she is a Christian.

You sound like under the conditions, the two of you shared some pleasing moments.

We usually did not get along. I was not dating her either.

In what way do you think you could elicit a response from her, that she may use to disclose to you what her take is on any steps she might entertain for you to get together more personally or get to know one another online, etc.?

I don't know.
You question is, would a note handwritten from you saying in you poetic way, "I enjoyed ___", etc., without being too forward, to just allow her to know that if she was intrigued and might like the thought about the two of you getting to know each other better, you would be O.K. with that and then see what she writes you back.

"Hi, thanks, I'm moving on."

or "Hi, thanks, How ARRE YOOU?"

A little bitty flower or a small bunch might force her hand to hopefully she would reply with a "Thank You" and that's it, or "Thank you, I really like them and they reminded me/us how much we enjoyed our time together", etc., etc.

I don't recall asking that question, and I do not want to force anyone to do anything.

Thank you for the advice.
 

Alan Dale Gross

Active Member
do not seem to be spiritually mature
This applies to all of us, certainly, so I'm glad to see you know that we all have room to grow in the Grace and Knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.

If I didn't already mention it, the Agape Godly-Giving quality of Charity-type-Love that God has for us is to Give.

So, we're not to be self-seeking, like 'I want, I want', 'give me, give me', or ever even "I want to marry her because she is some good looking arm candy", and "that makes me look good", etc.

It's like, "God help me as You Give me the Grace to understand and cultivate Your kind and quality of Giving, Forgiving, and Merciful Godly Love, in my life and soul."

Then, "My plan is to be there for a woman You may have for me and have her back, and provide, support, and comfort her while I give myself to Love her Your Way and I think you for teaching me about Your quality of Giving Love, so I know what quality of Love I will be checking to see that she has".

Because, if Jesus in me is Loving and Giving to her and she also has Jesus in her Loving and Giving to me, then LOVE NEVER FAILS. That's Bible, you know.
 
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