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Calvinism needs to add words to scripture
Ascetic X
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Ascetic X
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The Marprelate Controversy was a war of inflammatory pamphlets waged in England and Wales in 1588 and 1589, between a puritanwriter who employed the pseudonym Martin Marprelate, and defenders of the Church of England which remained an established church.
Martin's tracts are characterised by mockery of Anglican dignitaries and satire against the corruptions of the Church of England. The style is 'a heady mixture of nonsense, satire, protest, irony and gossip', combined with pungent wit, 'full of the language of the street'.
In the late 1580s, a controversial series of anonymous satirical tracts published under the pseudonym Martin Marprelate, boldly attacked the Church of England’s hierarchy with biting wit and fearless dissent. These underground publications, which defied censorship and ignited fierce public debate, left both the government and church authorities scrambling to identify and silence the culprits.
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
You probably feel like you addressed this thoroughly enough, but I'm still stuck back wondering where you are talking about Jesus saying, "all things shall come to me", or something like that(?)
Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
The Parables of The 10 Talents and The Pounds bring as Heavy-Duty a Divine Censor down on the disobedient servants, AS I HAVE EVER BEEN ABLE TO DO.
What do I do on the Board here, say "Hi, brother so and so, you are A Lazy and Unfaithful Servant, BOTH!"
In the Parable of The Talents, the Lazy Servant is rejected, illustrating that stewardship has Eternal Consequences
AND in The Pounds, The Unfaithful Servant is the one who hides his pound out of fear is condemned as "wicked," and his pound is taken away.
They don't even fancy themselves to be "a Servant" of any kind, to anybody, to start with.
If they did, they might be able to realize how Hard God is Coming Down on them in Fierce Rebuke!
Do Hypercalvanists even know whether they are Saved or not, ever? Where is any 'Salvation' in that?
That's the worst, most self-condemning, blind self-sabotage, consent of defeat on the part of everyone that there could be.
"These things write I unto you that you may know that you have Eternal Life" I John 5:13.
Saved souls should have had a Real Personal Salvation Experience in the Forgiveness of their sins, by the Blood of Jesus.
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The Parable of the Talents AI Overview; (Matthew 25:14-30) teaches that believers are entrusted with God’s resources (time, abilities, Gospel) and must actively use them to build His kingdom while awaiting His return. It emphasizes stewardship, encouraging proactive risk-taking in faith rather than hoarding or acting out of fear. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
Key Interpretations of the Parable:
- Faithful Stewardship: The master (Jesus) rewards servants who invest their talents (money/gifts) and produce a return, punishing the servant who buries his out of fear.
- Active Service Over Fear: The parable warns against slothfulness and "playing it safe." It suggests that failing to use God-given gifts is a serious failure.
- Divine Empowerment: The talents are given according to ability (5, 2, 1), suggesting God provides the necessary tools for what He calls people to do.
- Judgment and Reward: The productive servants are rewarded with more responsibility and "joy," whereas the lazy servant is rejected, illustrating that stewardship has eternal consequences. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
The Parable of the Pounds AI Overview; (Luke 19:11-27) is a story about a nobleman who entrusts his servants with equal amounts of money ("pounds" or minas) to manage while he is away to receive a kingdom. It teaches that followers of Christ are expected to work diligently, risk, and use their gifts to build God's kingdom until his return, rather than living in fear or doing nothing. [1, 2, 3]
Key Aspects and Meaning
- The Context: Jesus told this story while approaching Jerusalem, intending to correct the belief that the Kingdom of God would appear immediately.
- The Meaning of the "Pound": Unlike the Parable of the Talents (where talents differ), each servant in this parable receives an identical pound (or mina). This signifies that all believers have been given the same opportunity—the Gospel—to work with and manage.
- The Command: "Occupy till I come" (Luke 19:13) indicates that servants are to actively invest their time and resources in God's service during the leader's absence.
- Judgment and Reward:The servants are judged based on their diligence and productivity upon the master's return.
- Faithful Servants: Those who increased their pounds are rewarded with authority over cities.
- The Unfaithful Servant: The servant who hides his pound out of fear is condemned as "wicked," and his pound is taken away.
- The Nobleman's Return: The master's return represents the second coming of Christ, where he will judge his servants and reign as king. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
The difference is between the love or hatred of the Gospel.
Missionary Baptists claim they love the Gospel by Preaching it to "every creature", as Jesus Commanded, and trusting that the Holy Spirit Will Use that Preaching Message of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, and that it is the Power of God unto Salvation that the Holy Spirit does Use, to Give a lost soul the Spiritually Enabled Ability to Repent and Believe, in the New Birth and that their New Birth is a Historical Fact that they have Experienced at a specified time in their life.
Privative, or Hardshell-Hypercalvanists might claim they love the Gospel and share it liberally, but not as being a part or any portion of God's Methodology in His Eternal Plan of Salvation and that some souls are just Eternally lost for all of Eternity and that Eternally Saved souls have been Eternally Saved always, since the beginning when they were ever thought of in the Mind of God. All that precludes there from being any purpose for anyone to Preach the Gospel to the lost and, therefore, the individual Primitive Hardshell Baptists do not expect to have a Personal Salvation Experience, and then don't, where they can ever really know if they are lost, or if by Hopey-ism = "they happen to be one of The Elect". That is all simply 'Hatred of the Gospel' and there is no way around that.
Hypercalvanism equates Election with Salvation, as if any person who was Elected automatically has always been saved, while at the same time, denying that an individual can know whether they are one of the lost or one of the saved.
They just act as nice as possible to try and convince themselves and others that their religion has got them a Home in Heaven.
But not if they haven't experienced turning from their sin-cursed guilt in Repentance toward God and having Faith in Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection, and believing Jesus died for them, buried their sins away, and to Prove God Accepted Jesus' Payment for their sins, believing JESUS ROSE FROM THE DEAD To
BTAIN ETERNAL LIFE FOR THEIR SINFUL, HOPELESS, VILE, WICKED, BLIND SOUL, when they knew that God Knew that they knew THEIR SOUL NEEDED A SAVIOR!!!
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Alan Dale Gross
Active Member
Thank you, for your candid, kind remarks.
\The only part of my format that you may be interested in, is that I try to always place the Scriptures in bold purple, so that if nothing else, you could browse over those and generally see where I leading to and the Scriptures are always a Blessing no matter what.
Then, I put the next important items that are usually the outline in bold red, if you want to follow along more.
The bold black type will bring an emphasis to whatever things may be important to catch onto, on either side.
If there is more God-Honoring content, in any media, that Worships Him in a more Solid Doctrinal stance, I will definitely arrange them in my bookmark system (for my benefit from their ministry, i.e., no matter what else they might believe on other things).
'Hypercalvanism" is defined by their insistence on disobeying the first point in the 'Salvation Process' and that is God's Command the "Preach the Gospel".
Hypercalvanist believe that "Preaching the Gospel" is not the Means, in the Spirit Realm, by which God Conveys His Eternal Plan of Salvation to a lost soul at the Time of their Salvation.
However, it is at that Time, at the Preaching of the Gospel, God Grants the lost sinner "Repentance and Faith", with "FAITH" being the MEANS that works with the MEANS OF GOD'S COMMANDING THAT THE GOSPEL BE PREACHED, by which their New Divine Nature THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ETERNAL LIFE is Enabled SPIRITUALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, to Communicate and Connect with GOD, WHO IS SPIRIT.
God Gives them A NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT WITH THE ABILITY TO SPIRITUALLY EXERCISE God's Gift of Faith (in response to the Preaching of the Gospel).
1. God Commands: "PREACH THE GOSPEL!"
2. The Holy Spirit is Under His Agreement to Carry Out His Office of Bringing souls to Jesus,
2a. and The Holy Spirit Orchestrates the Circumstances in Providence to have the Gospel Preached, in some form,
at the same place 2b. to an "Invited Guest" present, whose lost heart He had been Convicted under that Preaching...
Since "The Gospel" includes the fact it was our sins that put Jesus to death on the cross and so,
2c. the lost sinner may be Brought under Conviction that their Personal Sins could have been the Cause of Jesus' death.
3. The Lord Grants Repentance , as in 2 Timonthy 2:25
"In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;
if God Peradventure will Give them Repentance to the acknowledging of the Truth;
and in Acts 11:18; The Lord Grants Repentance during Salvation;
"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God,
saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles Granted Repentance unto Life."
This is the experience of the first half of Two Twin Doctrines in the Scriptures concerning Salvation, "Repentance and Faith".
Just when "Faith", the second half of those two twin Doctrines, is experienced in the "Invited Guest's" soul,
THE NEW BIRTH FROM ABOVE HAS TAKEN PLACE.
That is the Personal Salvation Experience.
The Saved soul had Agreed with God that their personal sins Offended Him, Eternally, and with the Just Punishment for those Eternal sins would be for them to have to suffer in the Lake of Fire, Forever, after God Granted them Repentance.
Then, Working Below the Level of Consciousness, the Holy Spirit Quickens that soul's mind to Eternal Life,
which then Enables the Newly Born Again soul's Quickened mind TO BE ABLE TO THINK WITHIN GOD'S SPIRITUAL REALITY,
AND TO PLACE THEIR TRUST AND FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF JESUS
WHO ACCOMPLISHED SALVATION FOR THE SOULS OF MEN WHO HAD SINNED AND HAD SINS JUST LIKE THEM.
At the same time, essentially, A Preacher Preaches the Gospel,
there is a sinner Present who the Holy Spirit Purposed to be there,
and that sinner is Brought under the Conviction of their sins,
AND then the Holy Spirit Grants them Repentance Toward God and Faith in Jesus Christ at their New Birth.
This is how to get anything AT ALL out of what I post, if you like.
\The only part of my format that you may be interested in, is that I try to always place the Scriptures in bold purple, so that if nothing else, you could browse over those and generally see where I leading to and the Scriptures are always a Blessing no matter what.
Then, I put the next important items that are usually the outline in bold red, if you want to follow along more.
The bold black type will bring an emphasis to whatever things may be important to catch onto, on either side.
If there is more God-Honoring content, in any media, that Worships Him in a more Solid Doctrinal stance, I will definitely arrange them in my bookmark system (for my benefit from their ministry, i.e., no matter what else they might believe on other things).
No. That one's way off farther than you might ever be able to realize.
'Hypercalvanism" is defined by their insistence on disobeying the first point in the 'Salvation Process' and that is God's Command the "Preach the Gospel".
Hypercalvanist believe that "Preaching the Gospel" is not the Means, in the Spirit Realm, by which God Conveys His Eternal Plan of Salvation to a lost soul at the Time of their Salvation.
However, it is at that Time, at the Preaching of the Gospel, God Grants the lost sinner "Repentance and Faith", with "FAITH" being the MEANS that works with the MEANS OF GOD'S COMMANDING THAT THE GOSPEL BE PREACHED, by which their New Divine Nature THAT THE HOLY SPIRIT GAVE ETERNAL LIFE is Enabled SPIRITUALLY FOR THE FIRST TIME, to Communicate and Connect with GOD, WHO IS SPIRIT.
God Gives them A NEW BORN AGAIN SPIRIT WITH THE ABILITY TO SPIRITUALLY EXERCISE God's Gift of Faith (in response to the Preaching of the Gospel).
1. God Commands: "PREACH THE GOSPEL!"
2. The Holy Spirit is Under His Agreement to Carry Out His Office of Bringing souls to Jesus,
2a. and The Holy Spirit Orchestrates the Circumstances in Providence to have the Gospel Preached, in some form,
at the same place 2b. to an "Invited Guest" present, whose lost heart He had been Convicted under that Preaching...
Since "The Gospel" includes the fact it was our sins that put Jesus to death on the cross and so,
2c. the lost sinner may be Brought under Conviction that their Personal Sins could have been the Cause of Jesus' death.
3. The Lord Grants Repentance , as in 2 Timonthy 2:25
"In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;
if God Peradventure will Give them Repentance to the acknowledging of the Truth;
and in Acts 11:18; The Lord Grants Repentance during Salvation;
"When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God,
saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles Granted Repentance unto Life."
This is the experience of the first half of Two Twin Doctrines in the Scriptures concerning Salvation, "Repentance and Faith".
Just when "Faith", the second half of those two twin Doctrines, is experienced in the "Invited Guest's" soul,
THE NEW BIRTH FROM ABOVE HAS TAKEN PLACE.
That is the Personal Salvation Experience.
The Saved soul had Agreed with God that their personal sins Offended Him, Eternally, and with the Just Punishment for those Eternal sins would be for them to have to suffer in the Lake of Fire, Forever, after God Granted them Repentance.
Then, Working Below the Level of Consciousness, the Holy Spirit Quickens that soul's mind to Eternal Life,
which then Enables the Newly Born Again soul's Quickened mind TO BE ABLE TO THINK WITHIN GOD'S SPIRITUAL REALITY,
AND TO PLACE THEIR TRUST AND FAITH IN THE FINISHED WORK OF JESUS
WHO ACCOMPLISHED SALVATION FOR THE SOULS OF MEN WHO HAD SINNED AND HAD SINS JUST LIKE THEM.
At the same time, essentially, A Preacher Preaches the Gospel,
there is a sinner Present who the Holy Spirit Purposed to be there,
and that sinner is Brought under the Conviction of their sins,
AND then the Holy Spirit Grants them Repentance Toward God and Faith in Jesus Christ at their New Birth.
YOU COULD ONLY FLUFF THEM UP and Blast them out of usefulness, with new lightweight, flesh-filled, compromises.
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Ben1445
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It is what Jesus said. It is OT prophecy. It is explained in the NT. It should not be surprising for Jesus to teach it or mention it.