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Salty

Salty

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Silverhair said:
Here audience were the members of her church from what we see in the article.

Her comments were no more offensive than telling a Mormon that they could not become God's or telling an RCC or Muslim that works could not save them.

She laid out the truth that only faith in the risen Christ could save.
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But sometimes, it is how you say it. AKA using tact!
 
canadyjd

canadyjd

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Silverhair said:
I agree tack is required but I have yet to see where she was not tactful.
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You are not looking at it from the tribal people point of view. The smoking of the pipe is significant to them, whatever the meaning.
Silverhair said:
But as you know no matter how tactful we are some will take offense at our comments.
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Very true, but nevertheless, let them be offended by the presentation of the gospel. This was viewed as an attack on their customs. That is not a presentation of the gospel.

So, the debate is now not about the truth of Jesus Christ and Him crucified for sins, is it?

It’s about an attack on their customs.

Peace to you
 
Silverhair

Silverhair

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canadyjd said:
You are not looking at it from the tribal people point of view. The smoking of the pipe is significant to them, whatever the meaning
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By your logic we should never say anything as we are sure to offend someone.

What did you expect her to do, say that what they were doing was actually just another means of salvation.

Various groups have any number of things they believe or do that are significant to them but from a Christian perspective we have to ask will those things lead to their salvation or keep them lost.

canadyjd said:
Very true, but nevertheless, let them be offended by the presentation of the gospel. This was viewed as an attack on their customs. That is not a presentation of the gospel.

So, the debate is now not about the truth of Jesus Christ and Him crucified for sins, is it?
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From what I read in the article she made a comparison of what they were doing and the gospel. With one you remain lost and with the other you can be saved.

Here are some quotes from the article

“But I am a Christian preacher. I am a pastor and I preach the full counsel of God’s word,” she said.

Lucas said she’s not against the sun dance altogether: she supports fasting and praying as a whole concept. But she understands the ceremony also involves “the worship of the pipe,” she said, adding that’s idolatry, and irreconcilable with the teaching that “Jesus is the only way.”

She voiced mild surprise at the current outrage, saying community members have maligned Jesus and biblical teaching to her for years and she hasn’t retaliated.

Regarding the tribal community, Lucas said she loves them and wants to maintain a forgiving posture. She referenced the high suicide, poverty, and addiction rates of the reservation. And she reiterated part of the same message that sparked this clash.

“Only Jesus can turn a life around, can deliver somebody, can set somebody free,”


She should be commended for staying in a environment that is hostile to her and her message. She is a missionary to a lost people and she is getting pushback just as all missionaries have.
 
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