the field

Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.

The treasure is most definitely the saints of God the field is most definitely the world. He bought every one in the world. And to prove this:

1 Corinthians 6:20 For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Apparently this goes nicely with the fact that everyone's name starts out in the book of life and in order to have it removed you must choose to have it so. "Denying the Lord that bought them"

 

I'm not saying that everyone is going to be saved.

I am saying that everyone(saved and lost) has been bought by the blood of Jesus; but those that "deny the Lord that bought them" are condemned forever.

Hebrews 10:28-29 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

I do not believe this in entirety

Election is based on foreknowledge, not that God has willed them to be elect.

1 Peter 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.

Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Damnation is based on rejection of God, not that God willed them to be damned.

John 3:17-21 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

I believe that a person is born in sin and will face condemnation if they do not accept the blood sacrifice. However, the Lord must give them a day of visitation in which they make a choice to believe or not believe. Based on their choice they do or do not go on to condemnation.

John 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

I believe the Lord never condemned anyone without them making a conscious choice to reject Him. Therefore I believe that the Lord did not will them to be lost.


Ezekiel 18:32 For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

Ezekiel 33:11 Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?

However, I do believe that there are only 2 groups of people who have ever lived: saved and lost; so basically I do believe that all the people who do not reject Christ are elect(according to foreknowledge), and all who do reject Christ are not.(according to foreknowledge)

 

You twisted the scriptures in 2 Peter. It is talking to lost people in the future tense.

2 Peter 2:1-2 But there were{past tense} false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be{future tense} false teachers among you, who privily shall bring{future tense} in damnable heresies, even denying{future tense} the Lord that bought them, and bring{future tense} upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow{future tense} their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.

You need to pay closer attention to detail. Particularly as to exactly when the scripture switches from past tense to future tense. These things are the minor infractions that lead to grievous error.

 

2 Timothy 2:21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's[Greek 1203 despotes] use, and prepared unto every good work.

Here we find this greek word translated "Master"
You have to speculate to say it only means God the Father particularly seeing how Jesus said:

Matthew 23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

Matthew 23:10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

The greek word for Lord in 2Peter 2:1 could also refer to a husband, and I know Christ is also referred to as a husband.

Ephesians 5:22-32 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish. So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought[Greek agorazo]them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed[Greek agorazo] us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

 

Now you're really stretching things. The word used in 2 Peter 2:1 is not the same word used in Ephesians 5. Also, the word 'despotes' is not used in Ephesians 5. </font>[/QUOTE]I never said it was used in Ephesians 5. My point was:

Strong's Greek Dictionary #1203 despotes-perhaps from 1210 and posis(a husband); an absolute ruler

Greek 1210 deo
a primary verb; to bind (in various applications,
literally or figuratively):--bind, be in bonds, knit, tie,
wind.

despotes could speak of Jesus Christ as much as it could speak of the Father, you speculate that it could not.

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

John 10:27-30 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and my Father are one.

Revelation 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

1 John 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

The way I see it, you are attemting to separate Jesus and God in your attempts to prove that 2 Peter2:1 is not talking about the fact that lost people were also "bought with a price."

I give another verse to support this doctrine as truth:

Hebrews 10:26-29 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

Peter does use the same root word in 2 Pet. 2:1 that John does in Rev. 5:9. It is the same root, but not the word. And, remember that context always rules interpretation (one reason "word studies" can quickly go awry - 'dunamis' anyone?).

When Peter speaks of redemption due to the work of Christ, he uses 'lutrono' - not 'agoradzo'. 'lutrono' always refers to this type of "purchase." Had Peter used 'lutrono' in 2 Peter 2:1 - then this would indeed be a great difficulty for those holding to "particular redemption."

I have no idea what "particular redemption" entails. I don't think it's mentioned in that exact wording in the Bible, therefore I'm not sure what to do with it.

Anyway, that aside, I go again to Revelation:

Revelation 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

Surely you would agree that the Greek word agorazo used here as "hast redeemed" was used in this context to speak of those saints who were bought, purchased, redeemed by the blood of the Lamb.

You play an excellent game of dodge point but I know this same word(agorazo) is used in 2Peter 2:1 ("denying the Lord that bought{agorazo} them"), and in the context it speaks of lost people

agorazo

from 58; properly, to go to market, i.e. (by
implication) to purchase; specially, to redeem:--buy,
redeem.

 

Let me approach from a different angle.

Can Jesus ever be separated from God the Father?

What about 2Corinthians 5

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Ok you want to go with God the Father, then God the Father it is. So 2 Peter2:1 tells us that God the Father "bought" the lost man.

 

Let me approach from a different angle.

Can Jesus ever be separated from God the Father?

What about 2Corinthians 5

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Ok you want to go with God the Father, then God the Father it is. So 2 Peter2:1 tells us that God the Father "bought" the lost man.