Where's the line?

Ah we get the old dodging the question tactic already Please show me a passage of Scripture that says death is the cure all for a Christian that dies in unrepentant sin and then we'll move forward.

By the way I don't think there is a verse of Scripture that indicates that God punishes His children after death. I think God will continue to discipline His children after that point, but not punish them.

I don't believe you can find a post where I said that God will punish His children. If I did I apologize, because I don't believe that to be the case.

And how am I incorrect about purgatory? I never said anything that contradicts your definition of purgatory. All I said was that it is a false teaching that probably was spun off of a correct teaching. And you are right I could be incorrect about that, but I never defined what purgatory is or is not.

So I'll await your Scripture reference so we can continue . . .

 

Heh! Sport, you are the one who made the initial claim that God disciplines those who die with unconfessed sin. The burden is on you to provide Scriptural proof.

 

OR, I did make that claim, but you nor anyone else asked for Scriptural examples, and we can get to that point.

But what you failed to notice is within the very first part of that message I talked about other people's views (and by the sounds of it you are one of those people) of how death is a magical cure all.

That's the part that I don't understand. You seem to believe it so I asked you to provide Biblical evidence. So please provide your Biblical evidence that death is the cure for an ill-standing relationship with God. We'll discuss it and then we can move on to what I have stated.

But let's deal with first things first and then move on. Again awaiting your Scriptural evidence so we can continue.

 

James,

Hebrews chapter 12 have do nothing with millennial, and it doesn't give us of a hint that it is talking about the purgatory. That chapter talks about God is discipling us in our lifetime.

1 Cor. 11:32 doesn't saying anything about millennial, because 'a thousand years' is not mentioned there. Verse 32 tells us, when we are judged, we are chastned of the Lord, that we should not be condemned(judged) with the world. First we must examine ourselves with spirit, to make sure that we are right with God, so, we shall not be condemned with the world. Paul tells us, many of us are fall and sleep- spiritually death because of unconfess of sins, so, therefore, many of us shall be judged with the world according to Matt. 24:51. Unfaithful servants shall be cast away with hypocrites in the outer darkness. Outer darkness is a clearly eternality punishment separated from God, not temporary.

Later I will discuss more about exclusion millennial doctrine. Many things that I do not agree with exclusion millennial, because these are man-made doctrinea and lot of guessworks conflict with God's Word. I will discuss on these more later this week.

In Christ
Rev. 22:20 -Amen!

 

New membe here. I will just state my position without verses (too many). Is there a confusion between penalty and chastisment? Jesus paid the penalty for our sin so we no longer have to. As children of God we are chastised but not condemned. In this life we have the opportunity, after salvation, to earn rewards. We also may lose those rewards. If we are out of God's will at the time of death we have lost some or all of our rewards. There's no second chance. There is no chastisement after death unless you count loss of reward as chastisement. Those who sin the sin unto death recieve death as their punishment. There's no more chastisement for things done in this life.
Praise the Lord.

 

If we are going to deal with first things first then reread your first sentence in this post.

 

OR, This will be my last post to you unless you want to provide Scriptural evidence to back your statement. I did make that claim, but it was at the END of my original post. I dealt first with a non-understanding of people that believe as you seem to believe in that death is a cure all for a Christian walking in sin. If you are so confident that belief structure is what the Bible suggests then please just provide some Scriptural evidence.

Lobo just humor us and share a few verses that suggest that there is no discipline after death.