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Here we have yet another edited quote, misrepresenting what I said. These folks are deceivers, pushing false doctrine. Here is what I said: Did Christ die on behave of God's elect, or did He die as a ransom for all, those to be saved and those never to be saved. See 1 Timothy 2:4-6.

Would God credit lip service faith lacking a deep seated commitment to follow Christ through headship and suffering? Would God credit faith that does not make Christ the overriding priority of the believer, who values earthly treasures equally with Christ? Coming to faith is not "works of the...

More shooting the messenger, but not a verse of support. God desires all people to be saved, 1 Timothy 2:4. To provide the means of reconciliation for all people, Christ died as a ransom for all. 1 Timothy 2:6. He purchased or bought those to be saved and those never to be saved. 2 Peter 2:1.

Good Grief, those chosen for salvation under the Old Covenant were taken to Abraham's bosom, something in the spiritual realm. Now you seem to believe the physical whirlwind into the physical first heaven (earth's atmosphere where birds and clouds and winds abide) took the Old Testament saint...

More false doctrine, more nonsense. God desires all people to be saved, 1 Timothy 2:4. To provide the means of reconciliation for all people, Christ died as a ransom for all. 1 Timothy 2:6. He purchased or bought those to be saved and those never to be saved. 2 Peter 2:1.

All these classy folks have is name calling and change of subject obfuscation. We are...

More false doctrine, did you see any verse or passage cited. Was Hebrews 10:4 addressed? Nope Was Hebrews 11:39-40 addressed? Nope All these people do is make false claims. Here, the existence of "Abraham's bosom" is questioned, rather than supported. See Luke 16:22

Some say the lost become perfect by imputation, God declaring the person righteous. That is false doctrine. Born anew believers are made perfect, they are perfected in Christ alone. Did Christ die on behave of God's elect, or did He die as a ransom for all, those to be saved and those never...

Yes another thread pushing what I believe is false doctrine! Romans 9:16 says lost men will desire salvation and do works for salvation. Thus, some lost people are aware they need to have their sins forgiven. Does the saved person become perfect by imputation? Nope. Born anew believers are...

Another great post, Paleouss! We are not saved by works. So to nullify our conditional election based on God crediting our faith as righteousness, coming to faith on our own is called works. Thus we must be saved unconditionally, then given faith via irresistible grace. The claim disregards...

Good and valid point! If we do things and expect the accolades of people, are we not stoking the fire of pride? We are obligated to God, to serve Him as best we can. And yes, we should be thankful to God for the honor of serving Him, not the other way around. Call of Duty indeed!

The only way to receive the reconciliation provided by Christ's sacrifice, if for God alone to transfer you spiritually out of the realm of darkness (in Adam so to speak) and into Christ where you undergo the washing of regeneration, causing you to be born anew as a new creation.

Great Post!!! One nit pick: "Desiring and choosing to accept or reject is sufficient." Who decides if the acceptance is valid or lip service. Demons believe Jesus is God, but do not commit to make Him Lord of their life. Many people are like soil #2 in Matthew 13, they accept the gospel...

This appears to be a commonly held belief. However, the "it" that appears in these verses is not Abraham, but his faith, Romans 4:5. The idea our faith, when and if credited by God results in being declared righteous is false. If God credits an individual's faith as righteousness, then He...

I think the key is humility. Nobody likes it when I tell them their doctrine is false doctrine, and I sure do not like it when they tell me I do not know what I am talking about. If we are so deeply entrenched in confirmation bias, seeing only what we saw before, a verse that says "a" will be...

I was addressing the timing of humanities separation from God, your #1 in post 1. I was addressing your #2 in your post #1. I was addressing your #3 in your post #1.

My experience with "moderate democrats" is that they talk a good game, but when push comes to shove, they vote hard left.

I am a one point Calvinist, I voted the the "P" because I am in the once saved, always saved camp. I am a quasi two point Arminian, in that I believe Christ died for all mankind, and I believe God elects individuals based on crediting their faith as righteousness. And I am a different breed...

One person's treasure is another person's trash. When each of us came to Christ, we trusted that our understanding was truth. Now if I come along, and claim your understanding was not truth, but trash, how do you suppose you would react? Are we able to reconsider what we have already accepted...

Yes, the model of the Old has two parts, the sacrifice providing the blood, and then the people receiving the benefit of the blood sacrifice, modeling the sacrifice of Christ providing the means of reconciliation, and the people transferred into Christ receiving the benefit of provision. 1)...