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When God is propitated, His wrath against them and their sins, has been satisfied, He is at peace with them. Now that is not the case for them who Gods wrath is against them and their sins, like these Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath...

Yeah according to both Isa 53:5 and 1 Pet 2:24 healed means saved. Its the greek word in 1 Peter ἰάομαι: to cure, heal to make whole to free from errors and sins, to bring about (one's) salvation To bring about ones Salvation, freed them from sins. They are saved. Now how did it happen...

That scripture passage is about the elect, Salvation in Christ Jesus is for them. Paul stated that in 2 Tim 2:10 who Salvation is for 10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they[Elect] may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory. There is no...

@Silverhair Those who Christ died for are saved, for they shall never die in their sins alienated from God, they shall be saved by His Life. Now if one is guaranteed to be saved by Christs Life, after being reconciled by His death, then they cant be lost. Now we know people are going to be...

What happen to this: an appeasing, propitiating the means of appeasing, a propitiation https://www.blueletterbible.org/lexicon/g2434/kjv/tr/0-1/ What is appeasing, and who is appeased ?

Faith believes in the saving blood, you say Jesus blood doesnt save anyone. So you lack Faith in His Blood

Thats what scripture says, and u reject it and scoff it calling it calvinism. Peter preached the same thing 1 Pet 2:24 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed. Being healed, the...

How in the world is someone under Gods wrath, and yet Gods wrath has been propitiated for their sins ? Do you know what propitiation even means ?

Faith believes in His saving Blood, that He propitiated God for them with His Blood, but you deny His saving blood, so what in carnation is your faith in ?

No, it came about when Christ died. Thats why a Person believes in Christ, He saved them first.

How, many are going to hell under wrath ? So He cant be their propitiation.

You the one who said Christs Blood didnt save anyone. So what is your faith in Christ about ? Believers have Faith in His Blood Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the...

Yes healed does mean salvation, and so does being in a right relationship with God. Thats being righteous or Justified.

Yes Propitiation is Salvation. Saved from the wrath of God, penalty of sin, and Jesus is your righteous advocate.

Faith is in Christ that He saved His People from their sins. But you dont believe that. How in the world do you believe in Christ, saying, Jesus your blood didnt save anyone.

How were they healed according to what Isaiah wrote here Isa 53:5 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. What does healed mean scripturally ?

Your reasoning is off. Again If Christs Death perfected them He died for, made them fit for heaven, and everyone not going to heaven because of their sins, how in Gods Creation you believe Christ died for them ?

@Silverhair Thats only the saved. If Christ is our Propitiation, thats Salvation. You cant apply those verses to the unsaved. Not unless you are a universalist and say all will eventually be saved.

The poster is correct, the natural man is in the flesh and carnal and as such cannot please God and isnt subject to God neither can be. Rom 8:7-8 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8 So then they that are in the...

You all over the place with desperation, but: Man by nature does not seek God Rom 3:11 so quite naturally when man does seek God, the True God, they are already a new creation. Thats the only way man isnt in nature.