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John Gill doesn't believe all men everywhere is all men everywhere. He leaves much to be imagined. By his theology God demands man to repent but doesn't give all men everywhere the opportunity to repent.

I'm afraid it's your theology that paints God as unjust toward man. Acts 17:30 "And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:" Does your theology match God's command?

I can hear echoes from Hell, "you never gave us a chance." But thank God there are no such echoes. God is totally justified by mans free will and the mandate of His Law.

And your point with all this misinterpreted Scripture?

You keep believing that Z. Your accusations against God will be dealt with!

Typical 5 pointer response. the fact remains that your theory places God as the one who chooses to send the majority to Hell without any chance at all to be saved.

God wants all men everywhere to repent and be saved. He predestined a specific plan for man in order for that to take place. But we know all men will not be saved, and this is where God's Law takes over.

Calvinism is a theory and theorizes that if God chose some to be saved, then the rest are chosen to perish. Wouldn't you agree it's ridiculous given the many Scriptures that speak otherwise?

God is justified by His own Law when man freely chooses to reject His Son. But that's not what we're talking about in Calvinism.

It's amazing to me that the Scripture plainly says that it's not God will that any should perish, but yet the Calvinist holds on to his ridiculous theories of the 5 points. The Scripture plainly says in numerous places, "whosoever will" but they find a way around that also.

Calvinists remind me of their Calvinist God. Ship 'em off to Hell, we don't care, they were chosen for Hell from the beginning. But me, I'm special, God chose me.

How will God justify Himself by choosing to send billions to Hell? Let me guess, He's God and can do whatever He wants! That's what we call character assassination of God!

That's not what Calvin taught. He taught that the elect were chosen before they were born, and were drawn in through irresistible grace during their life. He taught grace through faith alone for salvation. I don't know what you're teaching, this is a Calvin twist to Calvinism.

So you believe you were saved before you were born, and you're teaching this to others! My goodness, BF, what a sad commentary on your part.

When Peter preached at Pentecost in Acts 2, and told the people they had crucified the Christ, they were convicted/pricked to the heart, and said, "what shall we do"? What did Peter tell them to do, BF? When the jailer came trembling before Paul and Silas asking, "what must I do to be saved,"...

I have no choice but to give credit where credit is due, Satan is indeed the master of deception!

Christ came the the first time "only for the lost sheep of Israel." Paul tells us that "they are not all Israel which are of Israel." Only the ones who believe in Jesus Christ are considered to be Israel. We Gentiles have been given a life rope through being grafted (the olive tree example)...

Staying within the context of Matt. 1:21, who are His people that He came to save at His first advent?

Who are the guilty assassins on these boards? Who has brought shame and disrespect to our Father?

"Any message that teaches Christ saving only the individuals chosen by God, with the rest left to perish, is not only a lie, it's an evil in this world that is an attempt to assassinate the character of God. But thank God ALL can come to the foot of the Cross and find mercy and grace in our Lord...