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Agreed. When does that life begin? Answer above in my previous posts. Agreed. It is by faith that we enter into this grace. Romans 5:1. Ephes. 2:8 says the same thing. It's all a gift from being placed into Christ, by the indwelling of the Holy spirit. It's a placing into, immersion...

That's why we are called temples of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 3:16-17, 6:19) Also see John 14:15-17, Ez. 36:26-27, Eph 1:13. In the previous post, Romans 8:9-11 applies. along with Galatians 3:2-3.

Hi Alan Eternal life begins when we are born again. Which begins when we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. You see, you said it yourself. :rolleyes: Now we only need ask when do we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? Because we know that with the Spirit we are His, and have...

This is AI, used for evil, as this never happened. Right after Shadeur Sanders was drafted.

All these verses have context. John 5:40- Refusal does not equate to inability. A lot of the verses that you're quoting can be better understood within a bigger context. Many times those same people who could not believe, in fact did. Even the unbelieving Jews who were judicially hardened were...

Van, whose righteousness is being credited? Dave

Hey Van Notice that the Holy Spirit here is also called the Spirit of Christ. Romans 8:9-11 But you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. Now if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he is not His. And if Christ is in you, the body is dead...

This is really for everybody. I found something interesting for you to read, if you like. Not the whole thing, but just a couple of posters. One post each. I give the poster Joseph kudos for making this connection. He's basically using the Paul vs. James debate to make the distinction between...

Yes. No. Being indwelt is what makes us "in Christ" We call it the "placing into [Christ]" with the Holy Spirit, otherwise known as the baptism with the Holy Spirit. When we are placed into Christ [receive the Holy Spirit indwelling as a result of faith], we are also placed into His death...

Hey Alan This is definitely a point of contention. Herein is where one of the points of contention. When does that life begin? I think the Bible is clear that it begins with the indwelling, because that's what makes us one with Jesus, born again [the life] and justified. But that's a problem...

Hey Dave. As I have shown, the new life begins by being born again and is always the result of trusting in Christ. When we come to Jesus with a genuine faith, in response, Jesus places His Spirit in us, the Holy Spirit. That's why the Gospel message is believe and be saved. That makes us one...

Without the Spirit, we have no life, we are not born again. [ word or message] = added for clarity. 1 Corinthians 12:13 For by one Spirit we were all baptized [placed into] into one body [Jesus]--whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free--and have all been made to drink into one Spirit...

Hey Dave But the new birth is what gives us the life, right? You can't have life without the new birth, and you can't have the new birth, without also having the life. Do you agree? If yes, then I would suggest that we believe so that we can have the Holy Spirit placed into us. Which also...

Hey cjab I hear you. I allowed for that. He seems to know a lot about the languages, but still, understanding Scripture is ultimately from the Holy Spirit and does require a theologians process of interpretation, even in the original languages. He kind of reminds me of a poor mans Kenneth...

I have a few videos for you Greek scholars if you get bored. Tell me what you think. Source and content. One is Romans 1:17, and the other is Galatian 3:22. both about 12 minutes long.

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Remember, in post #28, you agreed that the life begins with the indwelling, right? Right at the bottom of the post.

Hey Van I see it a bit differently. We are placed into Christ Jesus when we receive the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12:13), called the baptism of the Holy Spirit. Abraham, like all OT believers, died having not received those promises (Hebrews 11:13). What promises? One was to be born...

Hey Dave. There's a problem interpreting Romans 3:22 in that way because the context is justification, and you're interpretation of that passage would make it a statement referring to ongoing faith. Justification, the indwelling, both result from the initial faith. The ongoing faith, the...

Hi Van, I'm not sure what you're getting at. The righteousness of God that justifies us is Jesus' righteousness, as fully man, and fully God, obeying God's Law perfectly perfectly, which is what the Law demands. That's why it's a curse for us. That's why it is impossible for us, but possible...