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  1. Z

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Another post broadcasting the truth ogf God, thanks Martin As a person drifts away from the biblical revelation that all must answer to God's Holy law, it is not too farin the future where they will drift and say hell does not exist, because there is no need to punish sin at all! Your posts are...
  2. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    It is, of course, in the text - several times. You just won't accept them which is your problem, not mine. However, see below. And I have asked you what the Bible says and you can't tell me. It is very poor theology to demand a verse that proves something. As I have asked you before, why...
  3. JonC

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This, @DaveXR650 , is what I was talking about. Penal Substitution theorists want to be in agreement with other positions. They use multi-faceted diamond as an example. BUT they have to redefine other positions in order to agree with them. Take Christus Victor that @Martin Marprelate...
  4. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This is exactly right. The Christus Victor theory is correct as far as it goes. Who believes in Christus Loser? But it cannot explain how God can be just in justifying sinners. It is incomplete without the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. So the Biblical position is to agree that Christ did...
  5. M

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    I have no time to write as much as I would wish. If it is @JonC's purpose to avalaunch me with posts, he is succeeding. However, I will quickly respond to this: You mean like, quoting the Bible. Well yes, I do that. Guilty as charged. Surprise, surprise! You mean apart from Romans 3:25-26...
  6. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    OK; so you have the right to determine what I believe, and throw silly insults at me, but I do not have the right to do likewise/ Is that how it works when one debates with a staff member? Is that why @Zaatar71 has been prevented from posting on this thread? If you believe it, you don't...
  7. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    It seems hard for you to understand. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, and the New in Greek, but you have to resort to Latin to try (and fail) to give us the meaning. In fact, propitius is an adjective, not a noun, so in any case it cannot help us to find the meaning of hilasterion...
  8. Z

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    This is a very solid presentation among all who believe and Know the truth. You compare scripture with scripture to refine your understanding which is essential. Those who have turned from truth might suggest this is a theory rather than biblical teaching, it could be they do not understand what...
  9. M

    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Romans 3:24-26. ‘Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just...
  10. C

    Predestination is a Beautiful Doctrine.

    Of course there will be a rebuttal from the opposing belief, that is to be expected. I'm just asking you to research and see the roots of Calvinism, whether you agree or not. We didn't come up with this out of thin air.
  11. Z

    Predestination is a Beautiful Doctrine.

    https://pulpitandpen.org/2016/08/27/7-scriptural-problems-with-jesse-morrels-doctrine/ Jesse Morrell, a Pelagian open air campus preacher, wrote a hit piece against Calvinism just before his recent debate with Matt Slick (see the debate here). His arguments against the truth of Calvinism are...
  12. Dave G

    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    Hypothetically and theoretically, I would agree with you. But there's this little thing that keeps buzzing in my subconscious and based on my studies in His word... There was no negative judgement or penalty ever levied against His elect, neither will there ever be. 1) Since God the Father was...
  13. Dave G

    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    It may seem simple to you, but again... Where do the Scriptures explicitly state that we were ever under wrath or that the Lord took God's wrath upon Him for our sakes? I can show you places that He says, " But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 5 even when we...
  14. B

    The Biblical Propitiation Of God's Wrath, and PSA.

    So God was not angry at the sins of the elect? Now I do believe the elect were never under God's wrath or condemnation you should know that from Reading me over the years however He is angry with sin even the sins of the elect. It's kind of a simple concept to me if the non-elect will experience...
  15. Z

    PSA...Found this on X today

    Found this on facebook today; =AZUBiSaHqg6nUaUB8-dalcJ0LexR3Pn8I-C3Pjud4PJRtkRgfgsBoNr6lu53zYi8ssCn2DFjVJl6EEPVgBHVWV0YQRjzZUzVj_ieVlBWIt_4k-SE_eozTSe8xYSg9d0AkQKT5mUnopRnn0-EKTF5WqW_mBz2U626bhvggYQhGFtZcUrsdIRyobofrky6sK0pePHHFjj-ES_n97ExBNjy3VD7GyeFW2V4lRg4oJ00HtmZzA&__tn__=-UC%2CP-y-R']Ken...
  16. Z

    PSA...Found this on X today

    I was surprised to find this on the forum X enjoy Josh Barzon 1. What PSA Means Penal Substitution means that Christ bears the penalty we deserve (penal) in our place (substitution), effecting atonement with God. It doesn’t cancel other atonement motifs (victory, example, ransom); it...
  17. Z

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    Jesus died a Covenant death for the Elect Sheep, the Seed of Abraham, the Church, the Wheat. He died for a multitude of sinners who will be saved. God is not willing that any of those elected by God will perish.. He has never intended to save all men ever born. That idea is not found in scripture.
  18. M

    For Whom Did Christ Die?

    For Whom Did Christ Die? I Pet 3:18 Ampl For indeed Christ died for sins once for all, the Just and Righteous for the unjust and unrighteous [the Innocent for the guilty] so that He might bring us to God, having been put to death in the flesh, but made alive in the Spirit... I John 2:1,2 My...
  19. Silverhair

    Justified from all things

    BF you can ignore the clear verses that disprove your odd view but that will not change the truth of scripture. We are not saved by Christ on the cross but rather by faith in the risen Christ.
  20. B

    Justified from all things

    To be healed in 1 Pet 2:24 means to be saved,to experience salvation. How was it done. The counterpart is Isa 53:5 One writer writes: The chastisement of our peace; those punishments by which our peace, i.e. our reconciliation to God, and salvation, or happiness, was to be purchased. Was upon...
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