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  1. Anthony Pritchard

    Death FOR Sin

    Substitution IS redemption. Redemption in Scripture is never an abstract transaction. It is always accomplished by a substitute bearing what the guilty cannot bear. There is no biblical redemption without biblical substitution. Here is the plain, textual pattern: 1. Redemption requires the...
  2. Anthony Pritchard

    Death FOR Sin

    It is fallacious only to you Jon, because Cooper’s principle threatens your system because it requires the text to be taken at its plain sense. And when the text is taken at its plain sense, substitution is unavoidable. Jon, you are ignoring the plain statements of Scripture in favor of a...
  3. Anthony Pritchard

    Death FOR Sin

    Jon, substitution IS redemption. Redemption in Scripture is never an abstract transaction. It is always accomplished by a substitute bearing what the guilty cannot bear. There is no biblical redemption without biblical substitution. Here is the plain, textual pattern: 1. Redemption requires...
  4. M

    Divine Justice

    I think you probably realise that this is not very convincing, but I accept that it is the best you can do. The text says, 'It pleased God to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief.' So according to the word of God, who put the Lord Jesus to grief? When Uriah the Hittite was killed, David was 50...
  5. JonC

    Divine Justice

    It has nothing to do with what you or I like. The fact is Isaiah 53:5 did not say God bruised Him. "It pleased God to bruise Him" The verse could have at least two meanings. 1. It pleased God for Him to bruise Jesus 2. It pleased God to bruise Him (referencing vs 3-9). To decide which is...
  6. M

    Divine Justice

    Yet, whether you like it or not, God did punish Christ (Isaiah 53:5, ESV, NIV), He did 'bruise' or 'crush Him, and put Him to grief (v.10). Why do you think that was?
  7. Anthony Pritchard

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    John, I appreciate the time you have taken to explain your background and the way you have come to your present view. But I want to stay with the Scriptures themselves, because that is where the apostles grounded the atonement, and that is where I must ground it as well. You have now shifted...
  8. Anthony Pritchard

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    John, I do understand your position. I simply do not find it in Scripture. Scripture speaks of sin as a debt, of Christ as a Substitute, of His death as satisfaction, of the law as fulfilled in Him, and of justice accomplished through His bearing of iniquity. When the Lord taught us to pray, He...
  9. Anthony Pritchard

    The Cross Without Cost

    Why a Diminished View of Sin Produces a Diminished Cross Introductory Explanation This is an extremely important issue, one that bears directly on the seriousness of sin and what it cost Christ to redeem us. PSA means Penal Substitutionary Atonement. It means that sin has a penalty. It teaches...
  10. JonC

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply. I understand your position here. I held it most of my life (through seminary, through my preaching ministry, and through most of my time teaching). You lean on the language of Scripture, and I appreciate that sentiment. But I do want to point out you are...
  11. Anthony Pritchard

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    Brother, thank you for your thoughtful and respectful reply. I appreciate the tone, and I want to answer in the same spirit. I do not want to argue philosophy or systems, only to stay with the words God has given us. For me, the question is not whether the atonement is substitutionary. We both...
  12. JonC

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    Thank you for being respectful. I hope I come across the same. I agree with you. The cross was substitutionary rather than a legal act. We can know this as a fact several ways. Jesus is the "last Adam" of whom Paul spoke. In Him God was reconciling man to Himself. I would even say this is...
  13. Anthony Pritchard

    Atonement (Not PSA)

    I want to speak respectfully here, because my concern is not with you as a person, but with the view itself. I cannot accept the idea that the cross was not a legal, substitutionary act, because Scripture uses that language directly. The Bible says, “The wages of sin is death” (Romans 6:23), and...
  14. JonC

    Atonemet (Not PSA....my position)

    Why does it look like "instead of us" to you? That is what you need to explore. BUT more to the issue, just because it looks like "instead of us" to you does not mean it means "instead of us". Lean not on your understanding. The passage itself (the text, "what is written", God's actual...
  15. Ben1445

    Atonemet (Not PSA....my position)

    Isaiah 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. This looks like instead of us to me. We certainly forgo punishment for sins because of Jesus’ death. If His death is not...
  16. JonC

    Atonemet (Not PSA....my position)

    That helps give us something to look at. The SBC defines PSA badically as Jesus died for our sins (which is too broad as we all believe that). So let's see. The Doctrine of penal substitution states that God gave Himself in the Person of His Son to suffer instead of us the death, punishment...
  17. Ben1445

    Atonemet (Not PSA....my position)

    So from this definition… 'The Doctrine of penal substitution states that God gave Himself in the Person of His Son to suffer instead of us the death, punishment and curse due to fallen humanity as the penalty for sin.. 'The Doctrine of penal substitution states that (So far so good) God...
  18. M

    Colossians 2:14 and the 'Record of Debt'

    If you redeem something (or someone), you pay a price to get it back. Matt. 5:26. "Assuredly, I say to you, you will not get out of there untill you have paid the last penny." That [figuratively] is the price the Lord Jesus paid to get us out of hell. We were under a curse (v.10); Christ...
  19. atpollard

    Colossians 2:14 and the 'Record of Debt'

    Gal 3:13 [NKJV] Christ has redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us (for it is written, "Cursed [is] everyone who hangs on a tree"), Perhaps a bit pedantic, but “redeemed” is not “paid in full” either. Galatians is about who God has purchased, not a debt I owed that...
  20. M

    Colossians 2:14 and the 'Record of Debt'

    You are correct that "pay" and "cancel" are not the same thing. But on what basis has the "certificate of debt" been cancelled? It has been cancelled because someone else has paid it off in full (Gal. 3:13; Isaiah 53:5).
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