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Once again you ignore verses 3-12, about election and predestination, to twist the text to a man centered version. We see what you are trying to do, lol but once again this is a tragic fail.

ok, we do not have to be enemies,lol

Okay, you have had your say and cannot seem to respond to truth, so,thanks for your responses be that what they are.

You are free to ignore truth, but the truth is not going to change Many have told you truth, you just oppose yourself and resist.

Sorry but this bogus post will no longer be counted as an honest post.

Why in your faulty scheme was God not able to do His designed plan of saving everyone? Did some work of man need to be added? Did Ezk 36 say anywhere that God waits for mans response, or does it say as we posted that God says all the action comes from God?

Here Silverhair avoids the direct response to the point made by the Ezkiel 36 reference, using a dispensationally based excuse that avoids facing the music of his man centered response. No, obviously I do not agree with your man centered comment about God responding to mans response.

ibid; By election is sometimes meant, "God's taking a whole nation, community or body of men into external covenant with Himself by giving them the advantage of revelation, or His written word, as the rule of their belief and practice, when other nations are without it." In this sense the whole...

Here is another quote that you men will find helpful from Brother Z; The term election, that so very frequently occurs in Scripture, is there taken in a fourfold sense, and most commonly signifies "That eternal, sovereign, unconditional, particular and immutable act of God where He selected some...

Good, so you agree with his quote then! Did you mis type this? God for sure is not going to save everyone, that is certain from scripture. Perhaps you did not type what you intended?? That is not taught here, as it would contradict several portions of scripture such as Isa.46:9-11 No, that is...

I have not looked at or studied his writings, so I cannot Comment on him directly.

Sorry, you are off base on this. your philosophical take on "hebrew Poetry" has nothing whatsoever to do with the quoted material from Zanchius, No...It has nothing to do with your hebrew poetry deflection. It deals with biblical truth. Your attempt to steer away from the plain statements is a...

No... what it does mean as I understand the statement much different from you in a way that you do not get or agree with.let me try and illustrate it for you.... We can say 1] God would like it if everyone would not sin 2] God would be happy indeed , if all men had a desire to be saved by God...

And yet, I can biblically present and support Zanchius teaching on this, and you could not begin to refute it biblically. Oh you would oppose anyone who believes the doctrines of grace, but you cannot biblically do it. To jump to your provisionist idea of Augustine/as agnostic influencing...

Even after quoting his quote, you do not see it! he said...".GOD NEVER DESIGNED TO SAVE EVERY INDIVIDUAL" Whatever 1Tim2 is teaching, it is in no way teaching that God has designed, planned and purposed to save all men. You cannot get there from what 1tim2 says. Zanchius as a fellow believer...

Where does the bible say anything close to that? let's look at EZk 36 together... 24 For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land. 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your...

Sorry you still do not understand what he is saying. Try again tomorrow after you get a good nights sleep!

This is a deflection , having nothing to do with scripture once again

Sorry SH, It seems as if you did not read his accurate quote correctly. Slow down, take a moment and read what he actually said, not what your mind is trying to twist it into.

While Jesus is the elect servant,yes, Isa.42:42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. We as living stones are elect in Him from before the world was. Any who would deny that saving...