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Calling me names will not change your mistaken view into truth Ben No, your post blames God for mans sin, because you do not understand the term ordained! This suggests you do not know what determinism is! No, not at all! let me ask you Ben- Are there things that happen that your god has not...

They are those who deny the last part of 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. They are those who say man can come on their own, apart from the effectual work of God.

37818, They do not believe this verse as written! They are saying that men can come all by themselves , without it being the work of God, or they would agree with the confessional statements.

Are you sure about that SH ? Let's check in on the Confessions of faith and see if you are accurate??? 1689 cof. Chapter 3 Of God’s Decree God hath decreed in himself, from all eternity, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes...

I do not see 4th century thought in scripture my friend, I do see the doctrines of grace in all 66 books however. Why do you make up fantasies instead of dealing with scripture. You noticed how ben failed on suggesting there are not two peoples in view, in Romans 5. Without that truth , all...

Hello Silverhair, my friend, It seems to me, that you and Ben are missing out of what special revelation has revealed to the Church. Dr. Bob offered solid truth, that most people embrace as the truth of God. he does not blame God for man's sin. Does it bother you that you or ben would suggest...

Many in Isaiah's day turned from God to idols. That is why they were challenged as in the OP. It looks as if many have made that same error, by turning from special revelation, to man made idols, like "free will". It is just as much an Idol as the wooden idols Isaiah wrote about.

No one said He did? Why would you suggest such a thing. God is not the Author of sin! No one suggests this, so why do you say it?

Ben does not seem to understand what is at issue here. Look at his responses to Dr,. Bob! He does not have a grasp on the biblical language, He seems to want to blame God for mans sin. This cannot be!

God has ordained many things to come to pass. Unbelief, apostasy, second death, haters of God. Not just the happy promise verses.

What are you talking about

Charlie, Jesus only saves those given to Him.

This of course is the biblical truth.

Hello Mikoo, Often a discussion can be helpful especially when truth is posted next to error. This thread started out with the premise from Isaiah, that the true and living God has ordained all things, and knows the end from the beginning, whereas the false gods, cannot know the future. A...

I have concluded my interaction with Ben for now. Here are some reasons why. I have already pointed out from the text that all those saved , are saved from their sins. They were ungodly, before God saved them. All believers were born in sin. This poster ignores this and suggests otherwise. okay...

Okay Ben. We have both had our say. Thanks for your attempted responses.

8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. The we and us, is right on in this context. It is the saints, who used to be ungodly sinners, who are...

I did not say isolate it from the rest of the bible did I? I am being open with you, but perhaps you have trouble dealing with that openess? We had a good discussion going on, but this looks like where you are attempting to get out fof the discussion without following through? let's see where...

While it might be a poor illustration, I think you mischaracterize it, you say.. God has put the" Unsavable in spiritual jail.." How about we look at it biblically, SIN has put all men in bondage as Jesus taught in Jn8. BLAME SIN, NOT God! No, it demonstrates the biblical teaching of total...

I do know, all men...look at who Paul describes; 2 I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 [For kings, and for all that are in authority;] that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and...