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Well why stop at Judas, if all men do as God determines they do then that makes God the ultimate sinner. Or could they do other than what God determined they do BF? Determinism or free will BF those are the options. Why are you a detreminist BF? What made you follow that path?

So according to your view God is the author of all the sin and evil in the world. Not a biblical view but you seem comfortable with charging Him with it so you will have to answer to Him for that.

BF you have been shown the error of your thinking but you will not actually trust the word of God but rather your false religious view of God. I will continue to point out the errors you post but as for now I will let God deal with you. May He forgive you for the way you have mistreated His...

BF you are making the error of thinking one action means all actions. You are assuming that because God can do something then He has to do something. By your view God is not sovereign, He has to follow the C/R's rules. So much for you saying God is "absolutely sovereign" As I said, God being...

Read what you wrote BF. God predetermined that Adam would sin. Could Adam do otherwise, not if God predetermined it he could not. So Adam did not sin of his own free will BF, he sinned as God had determined that he would. Thus the responsibility falls back to God.

The fact that the Lord overrules someone's heart does not prove C/R’s doctrine of the sovereign predestination of all things nor does it prove C/R’s doctrine that man cannot accept or reject God’s offer of salvation. All it proves is that God is sovereign which we all agree upon. We see in...

Your thinking is really flawed BF Predetermined: decided in advance, unchangeable Freewill: The inherent ability of a person to make a contrary choice If God predetermined the choices Adam made then it was God that is responsible for the sin. If Adam had a real free will [not the C/R pseudo...

I would say he is delusional but sadly many will read his of the wall comments and think they have some truth in them.

Your not God and He would not call the illogical logical. We leave that form of silliness to those of the C/R view. You twist the word of God and use a different dictionary to support your rather odd views.

Sorry Ken I can not actually take you seriously as you deny the word of God way to much by holding to that philosophy that Augustine brought into the church. If you did believe the word of God then you would not disagree with it.

That is a rather odd comment from you. You say God is "absolutely sovereign" but then deny that very sovereignty by the restrictions you place on Him. Again I have to ask, do you think there is a difference between God being "sovereign" and Him being "absolutely sovereign"? I note that it is...

Then why do you deny that He is sovereign?

I will admit that I do get enjoyment from reading the joke posts that you and BF write. You cannot be serious when you post such anti-biblical comments. It is either that or you have both been deluded by fine sounding words of false teachers.

Your whole post proves that you do not know the word of God. You have sold out to a man-made religion that finds it's foundation in pagan philosophy. Trust the word of God not your false religion.

Your comment is illogical BF and the sad part is that you and Ken both do not see that. It is impossible for you to have a predetermined free will choice.

That has got to be right up there with the lamest comments I have seen on this board in a long time. You need God to predetermine all things or else He could not be God in your view. But then you show how inconsistent your view is when you say but He is not responsible for the sin that He has...

The answer that you have missed; We believe in Christ then we are positionally sanctified within Christ by the Father. What did you miss in that sentence VAN Your comments just show that you do not read what is posted Van.

What you just admitted is that your version of god is unjust. He predetermines that a person will sin then judges them for the sin he made them do. Your post is a study in contradictions. 1] so man freely does 2] what God predetermined for him to do and then you repeated the error just to make...

That's great.

You are consistent BF. But it still does not say what you want it to say. Yes I know that Christ came into the world to defeat sin and death.