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Did anyone say the fire of the Lake of Fire was not eternal and therefore unquenchable? Nope. Once again, addressing what is not in contention and ignoring what is in contention.

Oh what intellectual depth, Piper 2 is right and any other view is ridiculous. No need to address the reasons why ET is only a possibility and not doctrine explicitly taught from scripture. Nope, all we need is to scream and shout and wave arms and run about....

The video of post #20 asserts that even if a person has hardened their heart, they are not disabled from "coming to their senses" and returning to God's truth. I see two conditions described in scripture. First, the one who is so hardened they cannot even grasp the gospel, such that they do...

Yes, I agree with your video demonstrating the "T" of the TULIP is false doctrine. Same truth as I quoted from Geisler. But I did not see where you addressed my view that the lost are able to truly repent without being enabled by prevenient grace. I believe the action of the lost to trust in...

The above claim is false, unstudied and absurd. Matthew 25:41 says the unsaved go into eternal fire, it does not say they may not be destroyed. Revelation 20:10 says the devil and his cohorts will be tormented day and night forever. It does not say humans will suffer the same punishment...

Hi Dave, Let us start with this quote from your opening post: Lets start out with some quotes. Charles Spurgeon said: “If I am to preach faith in Christ to a man who is regenerated, then the man, being regenerated, is saved already, and it is an unnecessary and ridiculous thing for me to...

Good Grief, "1) Eternal Punishment is well supported biblical doctrine. Just what kind of punishment is in dispute." Pointless posts of profundity provide presumption of positive proof.

None of the above doctrines are in dispute! 1) Eternal Punishment is well supported biblical doctrine. Just what kind of punishment is in dispute. 2) In the realm of darkness, separated from God, there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth is well supported biblical doctrine. The duration...

Please stay on topic and cease and desist petty personality posts addressing me rather than the topic.

Romans 8:17 NIV Now if we are children, then we are heirs—heirs of God and co-heirs with Christ, if indeed we share in his sufferings in order that we may also share in his glory. Children of God have been spiritually born anew, regenerated, and are therefore children of promise. Romans 8:17...

I think your question arises from an effort to support error. 1) Our faith in Christ must be deep seated, having a root, such that our commitment and devotion to Christ is greater than our fleshly desires for comfort and security from earthly treasures. The meaning of Luke 8:13. 2) The...

The claim eternal punishment is the same as eternal torment is imposed dogma. The issue is not the fact that the devil suffers eternal torment, the issue is the claim humans suffer the same thing. Eternal torment cannot be ruled out from scripture, but neither can it be explicitly supported.

Folks, the issue is not that they have no rest day or night, the issue is the duration, when being tormented or when the smoke of their torment ascends forever? Certainly when they are being tormented, but possibly also afterwards they have no rest for eternity. Anyone who claims the verse...

Yet another petty personality post, addressing me and not the topic.

No verse or passage says or suggests a person can lose their salvation, once born anew. None, Zip, Nada. Luke 8:13 says they believed, but belief does not automatically save a person, only when and if God credits that belief as righteousness, does human faith provide access to God's grace of...

If we consider Isaiah 34:10 and the concept of the eternal fire which will destroy Edom, we see none will survive the fire. But others read the verse as saying none will travel through the city ever again. Both views could be in part driven by an agenda, to make it fit with destruction or with...

When some people try to derive the actual message of a verse or passage, they ask the question, "What is the least God is saying?" This practice is for the purpose of avoiding to the extent possible, adding to scripture. Let us look at Revelation 14:11: “And the smoke of their torment...

Yet another change of subject nonsense post. Acts 24:5 has nothing to do with the fact human souls can be killed by God. God can create life, and take life, He can recreate life, resurrection to life, and He can recreate death, the second death in the lake of fire. Let the lying lips be...

I see we have a string of petty personality posts, rather than discussion of the topic. Folks, the truth is found in scripture, not gossip. Now he wants me to teach him, after he claimed what I believe is not found in scripture. This is all they have folks, endless nonsense posts saying...

Empty post, but long on "taint so" and Van is a so and so for saying so. :) Let us consider the passage 2 Peter 2:17-22. Who are the ones being misled, those who have barely escaped those living in error. This condition does not suggest salvation, but rather of having been taught the truth...