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Nah sorry its the truth. Regeneration is a work began in you. So is the drawing, the word metaphorically means . metaphorically, to draw by inward power, lead, impel: John 6:44 Thats the Spirits power leading the born again child of God Rom 8 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God...

The work of faith with power 2Thess 1:11 Wherefore also we pray always for you, that our God would count you worthy of this calling, and fulfil all the good pleasure of his goodness, and the work of faith with power: Its denied by those in organized religion that Faith , which believes in...

When one is drawn by God and or Christ that's salvation that's regeneration and the effectual call!

I never heard o none of his you saying

Even Our Faith ! 1 Jn 5:4 4 For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith. This is the victory that overcometh the world, even our Faith. Yes this is speaking of the Believers Faith, only its not his Faith from being born...

No one can come to Jesus unless capacitated by the Father; that is, no one has the ability to receive Jesus unless the Father gives it to him. John 6:44,65 44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. 65 And he said...

Heb 11:1 is Heavenly in Origin. Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Faith here is of Divine and Heavenly origin John 3:27 27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. James 1:17 Every good...

There must be a Divine Intervention before one can believe or come to Christ, a giving of a new mind and heart. Mans heart and mind by nature is enmity against God and not subject to God, and cant be ! Rom 8:7 7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of...

The only ones who will come to Christ/believe in Him for all Salvation will be His Sheep Jn 10:26. And its not by their own freewill nor anything native or natural within them, but by the Father having given them to the Son Jn 6:37,65 which speaks to Election. The Father by drawing them to...

@Van Its unfortunate you feel this way about the truth

Jn 1:12-13 agrees, those are the Sheep that believed because they had been born of God. Jesus spoke about them in Jn 10:14-16 14 I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine. 15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16...

Man has no freewill by nature to do anything spiritual towards Salvation, because by nature we are dead and without any hope ! Eph 2:12 12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and...

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To some it has not been given to them to believe the Gospel, but to some it has been See Matt 13:11; Mk 4:11 and Phil 1:29. Mk 4:11 also adds the comment to them which are without Mk 4:11 11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them...

Its obvious Faith in God is a Law obligation. Its part of the command to Love God with all your heart, in fact in the Luke account of this scenario the word Love is used in place of Faith Lk 11:42 But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over...

Again Jesus makes it plain, if you were a sheep you would believe in me and follow me and hear my voice. So hearing believing and following Jesus Christ is a benefit and effect of being His Sheep that He lay down His Life for Jn 10:15. All this maneuvering you doing to change the text isnt good.

How is it bogus ? I showed you from the OT scriptures Ezk 36:26-27 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you...

@Silverhair Jesus made that comment, I just quoted it to you.

So its obvious Jesus is saying, if you were of my sheep, you would believe me. All your maneuvering is unnecessary, go with the plain sense of the text.

You cant accept what the scripture says. The drawing is from the being regenerated, given a new heart. So technically when drawn you are a new creature, not a stubborn, dead disobedient person in the flesh by nature.