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  1. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Thanks ky for taking time to respond. I have some thoughts on this subject I would like for you to consider because they are important. Emotionalism is not driving my thinking, my intellect is. My being a Christian does not separate me from logic and reason. There is no excuse for a sane person...
  2. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Well, election is a different subject and I will start a thread on it later. I will say here that if you are saved, as I have defined salvation in my comments above, you are not saved because you are elect, as election is defined by the Reformed, but you are elect of the Father because you are...
  3. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Yes. The definition of being "saved" is the renewal of the image of God, which is trinitarian. This could never be accomplished in the sons of Adam because all his offspring, including you and me, were born in his image, which is soul and body, bi-partite. and have no ability in that condition...
  4. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Not Jew and gentile but Israel and the nations and the church, the trinitarian signature. The church is the heavenly part of this kingdom and dwells in a satellite city called New Jerusalem that is described in Re 22. Israel and the nations dwell on the new earth. It is one kingdom, the Kingdom...
  5. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Hi ky. Your premise is not true. One must learn to follow the context of the scriptures. The people in Galatia were also mentioned in 1 and 2 Peter as being "strangers." What is that? It is people who are not at home. 1 Peter 1:1 Peter an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered...
  6. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Many Baptists believe that as per this thread so far.
  7. J

    Now the People of God, Now Have Obtained Mercy

    FAITH, as God defines it, is not a grace. It is wicked and evil to teach such a doctrine. Faith springs forth from one who has intellect, reason, and will. Without these three things faith cannot occur and neither can sin. That can be proven in the non human world. Animals cannot generate faith...
  8. J

    Do All Baptists Except IFB's Spiritualize The Bible Prophesies To Israel

    Does your Baptist denomination teach that Israel and the church of Jesus Christ are the same entity in either and both testaments? I am IFB so my answer to my question is "no," Israel is the people of God with an earth bound destiny while the church is predestined to heavenly glorification and...
  9. J

    What doctrines in a local church would cause you to now leave if adopted?

    Excuse me but I cannot see the wisdom in such non descript affiliations as you have presented in your post. If one must ask what the purpose is, it is probably because there isn't one. It would depend on his reason for quoting it. I am KJV only but I have just recently quoted from the NASB...
  10. J

    Revelation 1:8, . . .

    Revelation 1:8, I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the "Lord God," which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. ( Modern Version ) As a first response, this name, "Lord God" is a name of our Lord that is first revealed in the OT in the context of his...
  11. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Give me a while to try to figure out if that was an answer to my question and I will get back to you. A simple yes or no would have sufficed.
  12. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    If you believe what you write why aren't you arguing for a perfect Greek text? I am told there are 4 families of manuscripts and different Bibles comes from different texts that are not the same. Scholars and translators do not agree. How do you handle this in the context of perfection?
  13. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Who knows when a publisher makes a mistake over hundreds of years. This is why God is so wise in building in a safeguard so the Bible itself provides a way to correct the text. Obviously this could work only for those who have confidence is the words. God has thought of everything.
  14. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Thank you for that. It is good for a person to be cut down to size once in a while if he needs it.
  15. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Knowing your religious philosophy there will be almost nothing on which we will find agreement, especially the church of Jesus Christ. You are a person who follows those teachings that spiritualizes nearly all the OT scriptures and much of the NT. I, on the other hand, follow a historical...
  16. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Just because the scriptures are written and can be read does not mean that God has revealed the truths contained in them. He said "here a little and there a little." Take, for instance, the entire NT scriptures. They are said to reveal "mysteries." What does that mean? It means that things have...
  17. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    I do not dismiss the importance of the words of the original languages but I understand that ones cannot learn the great mysteries of the faith and the deep things of God with these words exclusively. You have even unwittingly demonstrated your inability in your comments. Many of those you quote...
  18. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    I make no apologies for thinking that one who spends a life time of study from the KJV and believes every word of it is surely going to have a better grasp on the doctrines of the faith than someone who studies from a multitude of translations they say they don’t believe are actually the words...
  19. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    I do not acknowledge errors in the KJV words of God. I do acknowledge errors in copies and spellings and I am aware of an adversary that seeks to pervert the words of God. For instance, I have had published copies of the KJV that had several errors and I had to discard them. The Bible Gateway...
  20. J

    KJV Onlyest 1611 Psalm 12:7 note, question.

    Did I not say that God noted this philosophy as a problem. Men did that which was right in their own eyes. But that is not the main problem between me and you and those who like what you say. We have a completely different view about God and his ways and because of this there will not likely be...
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