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    Why should one be a Baptist instead of simply being...

    Your list of verses need to be examined more closely. Offers of these things in these verses can go wherever these truths are preached. The scope of the offer is worldwide. The benefits of what are offered in these verses are only to believers however.
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    Calvinism, Arminianism, and Provisionism?

    Dave, explain to us your understanding of 1 cor2:14
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    Yes, he is a good example. he is an educated person, but what happens when an educated person goes off track drifting into theological apostasy??? the education they have gets weaponized against truth, and hence they become enemies of the cross! Good example!
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    Why should one be a Baptist instead of simply being...

    You are correct in this. The living hope all believers have is the eternal state as Glorified and perfected saints, we will have the unity that eludes us now in the present.
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    The Apostle Peter , commenting on Paul's writings wrote this; 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you; 16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in...
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    Why should one be a Baptist instead of simply being...

    You should do what you think to do, until you know to do otherwise. That means as time permits, look into why Baptists believe what they do, and why. The same for, why Presbyterians see it slightly different, and why. Once you survey the theological landscape you have a better perspective on why...
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    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    Paul is addressing the Philippians , and In chapter 3 he explains that the Judaizers were an enemy trying to enforce OT. Circumcision; 2 Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision. He identified himself as having been a previous enemy of the Church; 6 Concerning zeal...
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    Calvinism, Arminianism, and Provisionism?

    Correct and right on point David. Have you noticed that those who cannot really understand the truth correctly inevitably feel the need to drag others down to their unchristian level of rebellion against believers, and ultimately they can be identified as enemies of the cross? To even speak...
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    Calvinism, TULIP, and reverse engineering

    Dave, Thanks for posting. I am doing four different things right now, but I would like to go over what you have posted, line by line. Short response is, I like how you are looking things over. I like Weust on somethings, not so much on others, but I like the fact that you are more than willing...
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    Calvinism, TULIP, and reverse engineering

    Hello Dave, The appeal among believers is simply it is the truth of God. It is not easy to believe, in fact many teachings go against the thoughts and intents of the heart of fallen mankind. This has some merit, but can be abused also. This is a large discussion by itself. Questions about...
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    Two Questions

    Hello Rob, What you are speaking of in part finds it's answer in what would be known as Covenant Theology. In particular what you have seen described as the Covenant of Redemption. short answer; 1] The triune God Covenanted among themselves to not only create all things, but to wisely rule and...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    The only people you mentioned here was Calvinists, you did not mention Isrrael at all. it was your post #95 The label Calvinism, does not depend on Calvin! Do you understand that? Calvinism is just a label.....for the doctrines of grace.
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    Two Questions

    9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Does this help you?
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Notice how John posts partial verse not even in dispute, the rewords others to try and justify his nonsense. You see this in post 48..he lists things no one is asking about! he then changes the concept that Paul gave us in Romans 1: 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Thanks for the needed clarification, lol What was in your mind , did not make it to your keyboard,lol The doctrines of grace do not teach anything different on this. Chapter 15. Of Repentance Unto Life and Salvation 1. Such of the elect that are converted at riper years, having sometime lived...
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    Two Questions

    You did not think that I was speaking of this???8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. really?
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    JF. notice, He calls your teaching philosophy as if that negates the verses you and Martin offered him over and over, and then he offers his philosophy that no one anywhere has suggested as a healthy philosophy, or remotely biblical,lol No, you are actually distorting God's word to fit your...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Charlie, I have shown you beyond doubt, your error and how your posts contradict scripture. I showed you how peter remarks that Paul wrote about the longsuffering of God leading to the salvation of the elect. What else do you think he was mentioning Paul writings about? I am not even arguing...
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    Two Questions

    Being without sin he would never die, But there is no hypothetical in scripture, he was the Lamb Slain before the world. Again , no Hypothetical, but no it would not. PSA is the biblical teaching ; Hebrews 9 and 10 are more than conclusive; 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by...
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    Did Jesus suffer God's wrath instead of us?

    Actually it is clear bible truth you have it all wrong....the longsuffering of God leads to the salvation of each and everyone peter speaks of: 15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath...
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