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so God forced you.. Got it lol.. God elected according to his will. that all who SEE AND BELIEVE.. read the gospel of Jesus whoever recieves him, whoever asks, whoever seeks, whoever finds..

1. God does not regenerate anyone until they are justified 2. God changes all his people. once they recieve him in faith. 3. God does not regenerate people still under the penalty of sin

Most certainly does not. It adresses Israel and all the questions rome and everyone had concerning Gods chosing of this nation who rejected him. lol. I call evil evil my friend. If God forced a man to do evil. God is evil.

Then you had free will 1. This is talking about Israel. Not you 2. they will be willing.. Because they love God remember, God saved them (or in the case of Israel. will save them, God does not make mistakes (rom 9 - 11

whatever.. already answered and refuted. this does not prove me wrong my friend.. you will need to find another path

then they do not need saved, they were born saved. Yes. the were predestined to be conformed to his image. But they were born dead.. and up until the point they are justified. they are dead in sin. I guess you forgot Paul said they were dead in trespasses and sins, then made alive Yes, He...

yet you claim God forced you to believe (by your words) against your will. Not sure if you have committed love, or you are forced to do whatever he says..

and 90% of the people will look at you like you have no idea what your talking about Thats willing to do Good. Thats what he does TO HIS PEOPLE.. the fatalistic view of romans 9 is off base.. Romans 9 answers the question did God make a mistake choosing Israel. Not about his sovereignty.. in...

Nice try God takes vengeance on those who freely chose to rebel. Now if he forced them against their own will to rebel.. well then God has no right to take vengence.

Actually yes he did. If he did not. Every man has an excuse. and a righteous judge would set them free.

Up until the point where you state God made a person alive while still under the penalty of sin, I agree 100 % with you. Now one said man was But God gave man the responsibility to chose. or to deny. Just like in the desert. those who lo0oked in faith to the type of Christ lived. those who...

tell that to Adam and Eve. and every other person who ever lived lol So God holds some people up and saved them against their will while holding others down not giving them even an opportunity to be saved, thus forcing them to be lost. how anyone can not see how bad this makes God look to...

This makes no sense. Unlike God. Man is limited.. I may want or desire to purchase a million dollar home.. But my bank account may not let me. This proves I am not sovereign

this is not the point at all The point is God gave man free will Man thus is responsible for his freedom of choice. If God forced man to do only what God wanted apart from any human free will logically then God can not hold that man accountable..

Congrats!!

yest another lost soul who thinks they know it all 1. I am not a calvinist. 2. Romans 4 supports me rom 4: 3 For what does the Scripture say? “ABRAHAM BELIEVED GOD AND HE ACOUNTED IT TO HIM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS.” 4 Now TO HIM WHO WORKS, THE WAGES ARE NOT COUNTED AS GRACE BUT DEBT (Works cancels...

I just gave a general review of the first few chapters of genesis while leading my home group in a bible study leading up to the Abrahamic covenant. There is always a huge disagreement, even in my own church (most are OEC, while few of us have reverted to YEC) and I tried to share the bible is...

I agree 100% But remember, they added so much to Gods law. and called it law..

I believe the limitation was because it took activity to walk.

would it though? Driving a couple of hours is far different than walking a couple of hours.. Visit family, Visit friends. Watch movies. read a book.. something to not only rest my body, but my mind..