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remember, the sabbath was given for man. Not for God. Whether we take Saturday off or Sunday. everyone needs to take a day to rest and get ready for the next week.

scripture does not allow for a "day age" theory of the first 6 days also. I used to be a GAP theorist. as as a teenager, it seemed to solve alot of questions I had. I have since left that belief, and Joined the YEC group

what you experienced was not Jesus. again, Study John 6, the eucharist is not found in John 6.

No The living word word says the word is jesus (john 1) In the beginning was the word. and the word was God and the word was with God. Again, you should study the word. and stop listening to men

Jesus is the head of the church we are baptized into him The eucharist has no bearing on this.

I can not believe yourself I posted truth JESUS SAID WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT PERISH BUT WILL LIVE FOREVER Is this not because GOD CREDITS THIS FAITH AS RIGHTEOSUNESS?? I am not removing God. I give God all the credit.. I am just not making him say something he never said

Like I said there is no need to go further It has nothing to do with me being satisfied with any language it has to do with me understanding that languages may have flaws. and I may need to dig deeper if I want a fuller understanding of the word. The KJV is great. I used it growing up. But...

Your using english examples. I am using a greek text interpreted into english. I would ask you please stick to my argument. otherwise. we have no bearing for the root of my conversation in which you are trying to show I am in error But a perfect tense words does not need context. It shows it...

Sorry bro. It is not off topic. And it proves out point. Jesus used it in John 3.. Just as Moses lifted the serpent. so to must the son of man be lifted up. that whoever BELIEVES IN HIM will not perish but have everlasting life. If you want to push this being off topic. You push your...

No. You supplied your interpretation. or some translation (which you still refuse to even acknowledge which translation this is) Next..

that's why my church offers both.. but we also do it in our small home group setting. not on Sunday when hundreds of people are in attendance at one of our three sites

I do not think you comprehend the argument My argument is about a particular interpretation of a particular phrase. the rest of anything Jesus said or the rest of the bible does not matter was that particular verse correctly interpreted into english The so called enlgish perfect tnese is not...

I am not worried about types.. I believe in types. the lords supper. where Jesus said do often in remembrance of me takes care of those types (The lords supper is actually a continuance of the passover mean. Only instead looking to freedom from egypt and the sacrificial lamb, we look back to the...

Jesus used the serpent in the wilderness as an example Just as moses lifted the serpent. did those who trust God and looked believe into live? or were they saved because they had faith and looked?

lol Do you like making things up? Abraham believed God And God took this act of Abraham trusting God and accounted his faith as righteousness. Abraham Believed God.. Abraham did not believe into God. this is nonsensical. :rolleyes:

eis Lou Nida - to, towards, in the direction of Intermediate greek english lexicon - to, into, in, for, into, in, for LXGRCANLEX - To, Into, in, for, DBL Greek - to, into, on, inside, among, in order to BDAG - into, unto, in toward, until, on for throughout, with respect to. with reference to...

No we do not It says we have been saved Nothing in the english text shows us that that salvation is still in effect. or if it will continue to be in effect. again, You have failed to prove your point For it is by grace we have been saved. or even using the KJV for by grace are ye saved (who...

Never said we were. our discussing is translating a perfect tense noun (saved) in the Greek. to English using a word for word interpretation. so I am not sure why you even make this statement. Jesus said in john 6. if I eat the bread from heaven, I will never have to eat again. He called it the...

ok now we have a problem The flesh and blood that gives life in John 6 is not found in the eucharist. the eucharist is a mock and pagan ritual that leads no one to Christ. Jesus called this bread from heaven a food that whoever ate it they would never die. Not that we have to continue to eat...

I did not say I agreed. I said this is why many do this.. but thank you.. I used to believe that also. but changed my mind about 10 years ago., we do both wine and juice at our church people can chose