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    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    Would be very interesting to read the full Systematic Theology of Van textbook
  2. J

    Snuggling With Satan?

    My bible stated that Jesus death for due to the predestined plan and purpose of God the Father, not satan
  3. J

    Snuggling With Satan?

    Satan had no ransom debt owed to Him, as the party that we are obligated to was God the Father, as our law breaking incurred a sin debt to Him, not satan
  4. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    Chosen in the beloved before the very foundation of the earth, from eternity past
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Without the Psa view of the atonement of Christ, there is NO basis for how and when the wrath of God was ever satisfied, nor any basis given with out that view as to how Holy God can stay as such and declare as now righteous in Christ
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Satan had NOTHING to between in our salvation, as all he did was to be used by Sovereign God to help in the plot of wicked sinners to get the Lord Jesus upon that Cross, but all of salvation transpired between the transaction between God the Father and God the Son , as Jesus paid not any ransom...
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    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    IF JonC really has indeed read all of those listed authors, he would have been clearly shown via each on of them that the Psa view of the atonement would be the most biblical correct viewpoint to hold
  8. J

    JESUS SUFFERED THE WRATH OF GOD EQUIVALENT OF OUR ETERNAL HELL.

    He experienced what every lost sinner will for all eternity
  9. J

    What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?

    Eternal secured by the sealing of and by the Holy Spirit
  10. J

    was there ever a time when God was caught surprised, or else learned something brand new to Him then?

    Yes, as many churches neglect to even give a sermon on real salvation unless its the required Christmas one
  11. J

    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    The earliest Christians as taught by the Apostles themselves were of the Particular salvation mode, not your full free will edition
  12. J

    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    You keep parroting the heresy of the full free gospel, but you either never quote the scriptures, or totally misapply/misunderstand them, as you indeed filter thru the lens of full free will
  13. J

    Traditional Baptist Beliefs

    And think that those MANY reformers who were executed by Rome for denying the papacy and daring to get Bible out of Latin into English would very much disagree identical in theology and doctrines to church of Rome
  14. J

    was there ever a time when God was caught surprised, or else learned something brand new to Him then?

    There are some here who would seem to impose upon God human limitations though, or else would say that he imposed those upon Himself?
  15. J

    Do we have any Evangelical Arminians Here on site now then?

    Freed by Grace (to Believe) Atonement for All Conditional Election Total Depravity Security in Christ Would be your version of Tulip
  16. J

    Do we have any Reformed Baptists on our site now then?

    Any of you see yourselves as being reformed and also Baptist then?
  17. J

    was there ever a time when God was caught surprised, or else learned something brand new to Him then?

    was the Lord ever have the opportunity to learn something did not knew before?
  18. J

    By What basis Does God the Father Justify the ungodly sinners like once we allw ere then?

    Is that basis our repenting, change of mind, the Cross, or just what?
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