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There is your universalism logic again BF. You are trusting in your calvistic religion not the word of God. Christ died for the whole world so your logic would have everyone saved. Christ's death did not save anyone but it made the whole world saveable. Christ died for the whole world so...

Are you telling the truth when you say you actually preach? With some of the questions you ask I really have my doubts. appeasing to bring to a state of peace, quiet, ease, calm, or contentment; pacify; soothe. to satisfy, allay, or relieve; assuage. Synonyms: placate, calm PROPITIATION In...

Wrong BF. I believe that Christ shed His blood on the cross and was the propitiation, the atoning sacrifice, for not just my sins but the sins of all humanity. I also believe that I am saved by the grace of God through faith in the risen Christ Jesus just as the bible tells. The difference...

Not according to the bible is doesn't. We are not save until we are in Christ and that only happens after we have trusted in the risen Christ. By Christ's death we have been reconciled to God, not saved. You are trusting in your calvinist religion not the word of God. You need to trust the...

To quote your LBCF/WCF "freely and unchangeably, all things, whatsoever comes to pass" Then we see that the framers of this say just how bad it made God look decided to the contradict themselves. Typical calvinism. Try to walk both sides of the street at the same time. I have condsidered my...

I know what propitiation means but it is clear that you do not. That is rather shocking for someone that claims to preach the word of God. G2434 propitiation - Original: ἱλασμός - Transliteration: Hilasmos - Phonetic: hil-as-mos’ atoning sacrifice, sin offering It is never...

The risen Christ just as the bible clearly shows us BF. Rom 10:9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; Rom 5:10 For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son...

That is your calvinism BF. That is not biblical. That is why most Christians reject the man-made view.

@Zaatar71 you and Bob and a few others on this board have confused calvimism with the word of God. The truth of God is not what we see in calvinism but rather pagan philosophy. It is your LBCF/WCF that bring the charge that God is the author of sin against God. Your divine determinism requires...

The bible disagrees with you BF. You are preaching your calvinism not the word of God.

Rom 3:25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, His death on the cross made man saveable, we are saved by the grace of God through faith. That...

Which only comes about when we believe in God OT or trust in the risen Christ in the NT. You continue to twist scripture just as the cults do BF. This is not a good look for someone that claims to preach the word of God.

Free will is biblical the views that come from 4th century pagan thought are not. The basis of calvinism is 4th century pagan thought brought into the church by augustine and carried forward to today by calvinism. So who is turning to the idols of their own making @Zaatar71?

You really need to start reading what is written not what you want to see. @Zaatar71 your wrote "God has ordained many things to come to pass. Unbelief, apostasy, second death, haters of God. Not just the happy promise verses." @Ben1445 wrote "God does not make people to not believe. God is...

Then you must be a universalist BF as the bible is clear that Christ is the propitiation for the whole world.

BF you are ignoring what I post and just arguing from your calvinism not from scripture. The bible is clear that Christ saves those that freely trust in the risen Christ. You claim to preach the word of God but you deny the word of God and preach your calvinism.

Remember BF Isaiah was writing from before Jesus and the cross. He did not know of crucifixion at all. And that someone would be raised from the dead would not have crossed his mind. I do find it odd that you will go to the OT in the attempt to deny the NT. From the perspective of Isaiah the...

Because the bible says that He did. Do you not trust the word of God BF?

There you go denying clear scripture again BF. Propitiation is not salvation BF, that is why the bible tells us that Christ did that for the whole world. You have to ignore words or change the meaning of words in order to fit your religion into the bible.

BF where do you come up with this those crazy ideas? The bible is clear that we are saved by faith in the resurrected Christ. Your religious view has a select group saved prior to them ever hearing or believing the gospel message. That is not biblical but it is calvinism. The bible is quite...