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The saved will be face to face when they become present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8, We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.

The gifts of the Spirit are both good and perfect. James 1:17, Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Only two of the gifts were said not yet to be perfect. Verse 9, For we know in part, and we prophesy in part. James had previously explained, Verse,1:17, Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither...

Per Romans 6:3-4. Verse 5, For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, . . . " . . . Likeness . . . ." Symbolic. "

Believers' immersion is stated in, Mark 16:16, He that believeth and is immersed shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Symbolic? But you argued, Baptists who interpreted Romans 6:3-4, so, also interpret the immersion of the Holy Spirit, not being water.

Romans 6:3-4, Know ye not, that so many of us as were immersed into Jesus Christ were immersed into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by immersion into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

You so suppose. Unless you can correctly present what we don't agree on, you may not be being honest, as you might suppose you are being.

I am persuaded those are two false teachings. And nowhere are taught in the 27 books of New Testament.

Nope. Never has been.

Hearing and believing versus not believing in Christ being preached.

Doesn't fix the modem English where the English needs second person singular. Where, thee, thy, thou and thine was used.

John 20:21-23, . . . Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you. And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost: Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins...

John 1:18, No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Genesis 12:7, . . . And the LORD appeared unto Abram, . . . .

The 27 New Testament books were being used in the genuine Christian churches before the 2nd Century. And are today our sole Apostolic authority in the faith and practice. Our 66 book Holy Bible are what we believe in in common.

Of course as you are persuaded it to be in your views. But not where Truth is being denied. The 66 books of the Holy Bible were Holy when they were written.

This passage doesn't require Calvinism. Mark 1:15, And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.

The if premise being false. So it wouldn't matter. John 8:24, I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:32, And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. John 8:36, If the Son therefore...

Do you deny, 'And they shall be all taught of God.'? [Romans 10:17-18.]

John 6:44-45, No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me. Which you seem...