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To be fair to Torrey, he would have been absolutely opposed to the modern KJV-Only movement. He would never have said that the KJV was inerrant or inspired. Cf the best biography of him by Roger Martin, R.A. Torrey: Apostle of Certainty (Martin's PhD dissertation). Torrey was the editor of "The...

Not sure what this thread is doing in "Bible Versions and Translations", but to give it the proper slant for this forum, here is my input: Glossa (γλῶσσα) in the NT should always, without exception, be translated as "language." And by that I mean earthly discernable language. That's what it...

Here is the final part of the timeline as it now stands. I will probably still add more later, though. Plus, I will attach the whole corrected timeline for your convenience when I'm all finished. Feel free to continue to comment or add people and events. Present Day 2024—Donald Allen Waite...

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Thank you! We require our college students to give full data when writing a paper: author, title, publisher, year. It's pretty basic.

There you say "Fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Faith," just as you wrote again, but Post #30 does not say where the statement came from. So who wrote this doctrinal statement? I just did a search and note that R. A. Torrey wrote a book with that title. Are you quoting from that book? If...

Amen to that. Interestingly enough, I have several pamphlets by Kenneth I. Brown of Detroit BTS from 1977-1978 taking a critical text view on the mss. Question: in line with the OP, my memory says that in those days the Greek profs at MBU used the UBS text. True?

Point taken. But where was the quote from? Who wrote this "Fundamental Doctrines of the Christian Faith"?

Getting close to the present day. 21st Century Throughout the 1990s and the first decade of the new century, D. A. Waite and The Bible for Today produce many short works, including defenses against Bob Jones U. (Bob Jones University’s Inconsistent Position, 2000) and Central Baptist...

We compare it to the original Hebrew and Greek. God gave His Word in those languages. The KJV never says anything different. The KJV does not even mention the English language, which by the way did not exist in Bible times. But seriously, can't you just enjoy the history without getting...

We knew the Clapps years ago. I'm afraid we're back to little interest in missions in most of our schools. We do make a big deal of missions thanks to our missions pastor, Mark Gilllmore, who has been all over the world. He took his whole family to PNG for 6 months. In the meantime, Pastor Van...

I'm afraid he does not source it.

It's been a while since I read it, but my impression of the view that we have Baptists in church history going all the way back to the first century is that the holders of such views simplify what it means to be a Baptist. Often they believe that simply believing in salvation by grace and...

I can guess based on my teaching. The women seem to be evenly distributed between music and education. And probably all of them want the hubby degree. :) Out of about 50 men in undergrad, about 8-10 are in the evangelist minor, about 8-10 in the missionary minor, and maybe 20-25 pastoral. Any...

Fundamentalism is actually subsumed under "evangelicalism" by church history scholars. New Evangelicalism, on the other hand, was a reaction against fundamentalism and in favor of compromise and fellowship and joint ministry with liberals.

2000-2010 Throughout first decade of the new century, D. A. Waite and The Bible for Today produce many short works, including defenses against Bob Jones U. (Bob Jones University’s Inconsistent Position, 2000) and Central Baptist Theological Seminary (Central Seminary Refuted On Bible Versions...

Not germane to the OP.

Good question, but I'm not sure I know the answer. That version was strongly opposed by fundamentalists since it was done by liberal Baptist R. G. Bratcher at the urging of neo-Orthodox translation scholar Eugene Nida. But I've not seen evidence of a cause and effect about that and the KJV-Only...

As evidence that an actual movement did not start until 1970, note the following: 1963—John R. Rice edits and publishes A Coffer of Jewels about the Bible. Included is an essay by W. A. Criswell on “The Preservation of the Word of God,” which does not mention anything about a KJVO movement...

Sure, go ahead and post it so we can check it out! William Carey and his team always translated their versions with a word for immerse. Unfortunately, the KJV translators did not translate, but transliterated, being Church of England.