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Yet another Calvinist who has deleted Romans Chapter 4 from his bible.

God causes, ordains, predestines OR allows whatsoever comes to pass. God does not just cause, ordain or predestine whatsoever comes to pass. Exhaustive Determinism is unbiblical nonsense. Scripture teaches things happen by chance necessitating the allowance of chance occurrence.

More gibberish, more demonstration the poster just wants to obfuscate. In his deflection does he say what the Father does, or provide the basis for the Father's action? Believing Into Christ based on God (the Father) crediting your faith as righteousness is truth

I cannot believe these posters of obfuscation actually do not want truth to prevail! Believing Into Christ based on God crediting your faith as righteousness is truth. Removing God crediting the person faith as righteousness from the gospel does not allow truth to prevail.

So you admit you were deflecting, and not answering the question concerning the issue under discussion?

Obviously, this poster wants to pretend he cannot grasp the issue. Did he say who decides that a person believes such that they are transferred into Christ. Nope. Instead we get the usual stonewalling gibberish of an empty suit.

Please provide a dictionary definition that includes to allow in the meaning of ordain. That is your claim, but it is simply redefining the word. John 3:18 says we were predestined as condemned. This is a consequence of the Fall of Adam. We were made sinners. Romans 5:19 The KJV translates...

Off topic gibberish to obfuscate.

I provided the scripture supporting being transferred, called, given, sanctified and believes INTO Christ!

I do not believe you are so stupid you do not know you provided no basis for the Father transferring the person into Christ. Here is the question: I wonder if you deny it is God alone who decides whether a person's belief should be credited as righteousness, and on that basis to transfer the...

2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 WPNT 13 Now we are obligated to always give thanks to God about you, brothers loved by the Lord, because from the beginning God chose you into salvation, through sanctification of spirit and belief in truth, 14 to which He called you through our gospel, so as to obtain...

If God credits your faith as righteousness and on that basis transfers you spiritually into Christ, then you have "believed into Him." Claiming you cannot make sense of this view is nonsensical. :)

Now, having once again shown the OT diversion only obscures the thread topic, lets return to the actual topic, the meaning of Hebrews 10:14, that Christ, by the sacrifice of His life, has made perfect, thus able to be in union with God, those who have been set apart (sanctified) in Christ. What...

From the internet: In Romans 9:24 the apostle Paul writes of how God has called individuals unto salvation “not from among the Jews only, but also from among Gentiles.” Then, in Romans 9:25-26, he continues by quoting from the OT: “As He says also in Hosea, ‘I will call those who were not My...

I disagree with the OP because "ordains" does not mean to allow. That claim is simply a redefinition of a word to bring reality back into the false beliefs of the dark ages. Ordain means to establish or predestine something. The actual biblical doctrine of God's sovereignty, adopted in the...

Once again we have a false teacher being allowed to make an absolutely false claim, that it does not matter what a person believes. Did he support this with a quote? Nope. Ever wonder why all these folks only offer misrepresentations and never truth? What does Matthew 23:13 say? That people...

My friend, I have addressed your off topic references to Hosea. Shall we go over them again. In Post 27, you reference Hosea 1:9-10. I responded that the reference was non-germane in post #28. In Post 27, you referenced the Hosea verses cited by Paul in Romans 9:25:26. I responded by saying...

Once again you claim to be a mind reader, but ignore my post. Here, again is what I asked: I wonder if you deny it is God alone who decides whether a person's belief should be credited as righteousness, and on that basis to transfer the individual into Christ, or whether you believe if a...

The statement does not imply salvation as being "Initiated" by the lost sinner. How do you think a person believes the gospel without first hearing and heeding the gospel. Does anyone come to faith in Christ without first being "drawn" (attracted by lovingkindness) by the Father? No, of...

Good grief! The issue is what was the intended meaning, to believe things about Christ, or to believe such that God transfers the individual into Christ? To believe in someone, is the action of the believer, but to believe into someone refers to action by the believer AND God! Lets consider...