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Iconoclast, You say that the Jewish theocracy is what the author of Hebrews has in mind about what will be removed. Verse 26 tells us that it's the earth and heaven that is promised to be shaken though.

So do you believe that the Kingdom was started when Hebrews (pre-70AD) was written? Here's what you said: If so, why would Jesus say that the Kingdom was "near" (Luke 21:31, ESV) if it had already begun?

The Church is born again from the first Adam.

Jerusalem, be she earthly (Mt. 24:8) or heavenly (Gal. 4:19), gives birth to Christ. Correct.

I should also include that, the Messiah needs to write the law on their hearts (Jer. 31:33; Heb. 8:6), because the flesh cannot do the requirements of the law to enter into the kingdom. Acts 15:10 ESV Now, therefore, why are you putting God to the test by placing a yoke on the neck of the...

Do you believe in a progressive revelation of scripture, so that, the chosen place for God's name (Deut. 26:2) wasn't revealed until David (2 Chron. 6:6), the OT saints didn't know the name of Christ (Pr. 30:4)? If so, it shouldn't be foreign to also believe that the Apostles didn't know of the...

Hm. Never thought of that one. Still, I would say that everything I said stands. The Church receives the kingdom in a secondary distal aspect. The Church depends on Israel to receive the kingdom. Without Israel receiving her kingdom, the Church also cannot receive it. (Thought I would give you...

Maybe Peter didn't understand this, but was brought to remembrance of this piece of scripture at a later time. It is not uncommon in the NT that this happens (John 2:22; 12:16; Acts 11:16; 20:35). Otherwise the contention of Acts 11:1-3 should've happened right after Peter quoted Joel in Acts...

I hope not to sound rude in these posts (thought I should reiterate). So do you think that the twelve did understand the doctrine of Christ's death and resurrection when He told it to them (Luke 18:34)? When do you believe it was it established?

Is the Church ever found in scripture to be given the Kingdom? Where does Paul, Peter, John or etc. ever say such? The Church has been translated into the kingdom of Christ (Col. 1:13). Why would she be given the kingdom if she is already translated into it? That is superfluous. I suppose...

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Why, if the reason Peter quoted Joel was because "The spirits work was going worldwide according to God's eternal purpose....ALL Flesh, not Israel only", was it Jewish people that the Spirit was poured out on at that time? Why would Peter say that it was a later time that God showed him about...

For one, in the old dispensation, death was required as an execution-duty for those under it, for certain transgressions. In the present dispensation of grace (Eph. 3:2), no such commandment can be found. We are to learn from the OT scriptures though (Rom. 15:4, ESV): "For whatever was written...

It should be noted, that when the term, "destroy" is used, it can denote the actual death of persons, or it can mean "to ruin the structure, organic existence, or condition of <destroyed the files>; also : to ruin as if by tearing to shreds <their reputation was destroyed>" ("Destroy", n.d.)...

The thought may be raised, then, that since God renders men their due reward, be it good or evil, that must mean that it is in the Christian's responsibility to render men their due reward, if it be an evil one. But, as saith Lewis Chafer: Isaiah 10:5-7 being one such example: ESV...

Hey there thisnumbersdisconnected, What do you mean by "God's presence"?

Here is also something I wrote on the subject (of Luke 17:20-21): The Jews were wanting the kingdom of God to come without their acknowledging the fact that the Messiah had to rule over it. For it had been said, by the Lord, that they wanted to take away His (Christ's) inheritance (of land...

But how do you answer Luke 12:35-36 and its statement that Christ is to return to this subject after a wedding feast? Luke 12 ESV 35“Stay dressed for action and keep your lamps burning, 36and be like men who are waiting for their master to come home from the wedding feast, so that they may open...

...So Moses didn't want the Spirit to be on the saints of old (Num. 11:29)? Moses' desire demands that the Spirit wasn't upon the saints of old.

Hey Biblicist. It was not a requisite in the BC times as it is now, that the Spirit indwells the saint (Eph. 1:13). Else we wouldn't have passages specifying the saints of old's interactions with the Spirit. It would be redundant, if interaction with the Spirit was a requisite for a BC saint...