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Is your point still that the atonement was accomplished while He yet lived? And in your mind, which atonement theory does this hypothesis support? Which atonement theory are you arguing for, or against?

??? 30 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up his spirit.

A good rod is important, cheap reel is all that's needed, it just holds the line. It's helpful to understand that you're casting the line, NOT the bait at the end of the line. Have fun.

It's a blast. Mini jigs tipped with wax or catalpa worm pieces will slay the panfish. Think of it as a long range cane pole with no bobber. Been a fly rodder from an early age.

My, what an overactive imagination you have!

Disagree. When the fulfillment of scripture was accomplished. John Chapter 19 24 They said therefore one to another, Let us not rend it, but cast lots for it, whose it shall be: that the scripture might be fulfilled, which saith, They parted my garments among them, And upon my vesture did...

I believe you! I think you've been wrongly accused.

Romans Chapter 5 9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him. 10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life; Hebrews Chapter...

Surely you're not suggesting that the birth from above occurs BEFORE one is 'saved'. That's what we Sovereign Grace folks believe.

Lol, what is it about you that makes you suspect to be a double? This makes twice!

'Saved', in what sense Charlie? Saved from what?

Hellengelicals have so gommed up the meaning sense of that word 'saved'.

"If Jesus Christ was standing in the room with us, He wouldn't have anything to say other than what's already been written". Arthur Crawford I believe that.

Mostly due to the CDS quacks that won't let it be, Second sentence of what could've been a great post: "I don't see any borders between my free will and your election in the explanations of this study." You're ate up with it Charlie.