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Eph 1:4 say that the elect were Chosen in Christ B4 the foundation of the world.

False. The Elect and the sheep are the same and Jesus had them before they heard His voice and believe, so they were still unbelievers Jn 10:16 16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

The whole world of the elect They were in Christ B4 He died for them and B4 they believe. They were Chosen in Christ B4 the foundation of the world Ephesians 1:4

He died for the elect B4 they believe

It's the Sheep, all of them, that is why He rose after dying the Great Shepherd of the Sheep Heb 13:20 20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, And pantos can and is exclusive in...

That's the Sheep or the Sons. He taste death for them so they don't have to. He abolish death for them. Again the word for in Heb 2:9 is hyper and means in behalf of, for the sake of and instead of. Like here 2 Cor 5:20 Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by...

Actually, it is, just not using your sound bites. You just don't believe in the substitutionary death of Christ for the elect, or do you ? Gods wrath Christ suffered is nothing but suffering the penalty and punishment for sin due to elect people.

Receiving the things pertaining to God ! Faith by which one receives Christ, or believes on His Name, is only ascribed to those who have been born of God Jn 1:12-13 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which...

Another way to define Faith Heb 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Faith is that which gives spiritual evidence or persuasion of our Saving Interest in the Person and Work of Christ for God's Elect ! 5

I don't see where you understand scripture Again no such thing as a means of reconciliation, them Christ died for were reconciled to God Rom 5:10 And you have not, you have succeeded. Why you ask me that? Friend you have not taught anything I can tell, not God's word especially You...

Okay that's it?

Really? That is powerful to say

No man naturally cannot respond to the Gospel positively in a Spiritual sense, he is dead spiritually and cannot understand it Spiritually nor hear it Spiritually.

You don't know what you believe and no one else does

You looking for sound bites friend. You want to win arguments if people don't produce your sound bite. You not alone in that though, lots of people do that to win an argument and to refuse a truth

You are, there is no verbatim passage stating Jesus suffered Gods wrath, but He did in that He was died for sins, which was Gods Justice/Wrath against sin, Just like it is against the sins of the non-elect Col 3:6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience...

You just going in circles, you not really making any points

It doesnt have to, its Illustrated, so you looking for sound bites to win a argument.

Sound like I said, you looking for verbatim wording, or sound bites, you just want to win an argument. Most truth comes from comparing scripture with scripture and analogy If the word wrath is never used, its synonym or close equivalent is. Christ bore the punishment for the elects sins, it was...

Okay and why say Justification ?? You are confusing to understand, you all over the place