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It may be one of those Jonah situations at first. I haven't been to the North Pole but I've been to Northern Alaska in Jan.-Feb. 40 below at night, the sun never makes it over the tree line, huge lakes frozen solid. A place Bear Grylls would think twice about going.

Yea, that sounds like that Calvinist God.

Don't let it be said I'm not sociable, we can talk about the weather, what you're going to plant in your garden next spring, or maybe sports. But the Scripture, nah, that's not for us.

I think I've already answered that a few posts back.

That's a sad thing to read in someone's post. "He chose them to be lost." But it is what it is.

LOL, I might have to agree with you there, BF, if we were talking about something other than this.

So you would know I 'm longer responding to your posts. I'll eventually get around to all the Calvinists, and we can be one big happy family.

I like the last sentence. That one works for me.

@Brightfame52 God already knows from before the foundation of the world who will be saved. He calls, you accept of your own free will, and you have already been predestined to salvation through the sanctification of the Spirit.

If that works for you then go for it.

No, let's get this straight right now, no misunderstanding! Your God is not the God I know and serve by your own definition!

What you can't understand, or won't understand, not sure on that, is that IF man accepts the call of God to salvation, then he is chosen by God to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit. The emphasis is on the being chosen to the "sanctification of the Spirit."

I've already shown you that God can call and man can refuse. God chooses those who choose Him, the ones that accept the call.

Yep, the spirit of the anti-Christ. The Scripture is not inspired, just go ahead read it as any other book. Lord, help us!

Yes, I know your God created man to save some and left the rest to self destruction by His decree. He just chooses not to enlighten them the way He did for you, How lucky you are to be one of the Elect.

There were promises made to Israel that were not made to the Church. You're somewhere in-between, where I don't know.

I'm a traditional dispensationalist and we do disagree on several points.

The Reformed view denies the separation of the Church and Israel, so they will shoot down my view immediately. I was just hoping you could get a better view of what I was saying earlier. The video was not in detail but more less an overview, there's much more to add, but I think the main...

Merry Christmas, Van! I found this video that explains my position on the "judgment of the nations" better than I can explain it. I'm a dispensationalist and my view will not agree with the Reformed, it's just oil and water. This video is from Derek Prince and it's not as thorough as I would...

You're not the only old dog around here that has used the KJV all their lives and will continue to do so. I led a sheltered life in the IFB Church and never had seen another version until around 20 years old in the Army. By then I was well acquainted with the KJV and the other versions were...