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[Heb 9:22 ESV] 22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. … says nothing about Christ suffering my wrath from the hand of God, does it. Thus the shedding of blood (by evil men according to scripture) is...

"In necessariis unitas, in dubiis libertas, in omnibus caritas" (In essentials, unity; in non-essentials, liberty; in all things, charity) To demonize those with whom you disagree over “dubiis libertas” is contrary to “omnibus caritas” and not very WWJD-like. Neither JonC nor myself are...

To be fair, it hinges on the word “propitiation” which has two common meanings, (regain favor or turn aside wrath) so it is equally valid to think (in English) that Jesus turns aside God’s wrath (like the propitiation to Zeus) as it is to think that Jesus restores God’s favor and eliminates the...

Romans 3:24-26 does not necessarily say this. That interpretation demands that “propitiation” have the same meaning for God that it has for pagan gods like Zeus. There is no forgiveness without the pound of flesh. Jesus could also be the “propitiation” as that which restores the relationship...

Respectfully, I find that more often than not, God is “clear as mud”. I would point to John 3 as “exhibit 1” and ask you to note that even the great teacher Nicodemus struggled to understand the simple, direct, literal “verbatim” words Jesus spoke to him. Now excuse me, I need to go and hate my...

Sad and brutally self-honest. There is nothing we can DO to deserve heaven.

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I was always bad as these that had more than one obvious answer … 1 or “infinite” (lines/sides)

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Fair enough. You had a limited goal and you selected verses that supported that goal. That is not my cup of tea, but to each his own.

Up to here you were off to a good start ... you were looking at blocks of text in context (although it is interesting that you stop right before the judgement is explained). In this part, not so much context as "cherry-picking". I am reminded of a quote "Any verse plucked from its CONTEXT, is...

Go for it. I have no issue with anyone agreeing with Free Will or Arminianism or with anyone disagreeing with the Doctrines of Grace. As I have stated previously, changing hearts is the job of the Holy Spirit not mine (it is above my pay grade).

My comment was directed to @cjab as a personal observation in direct response to his comments. So I am “ignoring” nothing, rather I was offering a very specific response to a very specific conversation. It is not I who was teaching it … it is what John 6:44 specifically states. John 6:44...

That was not my argument. Four of the five “Doctrines of Grace” (TU*IP) were found in some form in just that one verse, and yet YOU claimed Calvinists discuss their faith … … clearly implying that TULIP was extra-Biblical. So, I presented “God’s Word” in support of TULIP. YOU may consider...

In John 6:44-45, have you ever pondered why it keeps stating terms like “all” and “no one” and “everyone” if it is “man’s choice” that makes the difference? Most that argue over these verses prefer to focus on the “no one can” opening phrase, but I was always more fascinated by the fact that...

This is disingenuous … “No one can come to Me [TOTAL INABILITY] unless the Father who sent Me [UNCONDITIONAL ELECTION] draws him [IRRESISTIBLE GRACE]; and I will raise him up on the last day [PRESERVATION OF SAINTS].” - John 6:44 … disagree with and reject my exegesis to your hearts content...

I think God set the salvific bar quite low (theologically speaking) … Romans 10:9-10 [NIV] If you declare with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is...

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Yahweh.