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My understanding of predestination is various passages throughout the Old and New Testaments, just to mention several... Romans 8:28 - And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Ephesians 1:11 - In whom also we...

The question then becomes how was iniquity found in Lucifer? If he was created perfectly he could not have been created by default with a sin nature in him.

How could iniquity be found in him unless God created him with a defect?

I agree one has eternal life and will always keep it while they are believing. I’m talking about those who decide that they don’t want it anymore and walk away from it.

I haven’t yet come to a proper understanding of 1 Timothy 1:19. Either someone can make the free will choice to abandon the faith (Lost their salvation) or they were never truly saved to begin with. What are your thoughts?

I get all the points you're making. I'm not denying what the scripture says. I'm trying to find a position to settle on as to why man sinned in the first place. I am willing to accept that it is a mystery rather than accepting that it was either God who willed man to sin or that man willed...

I did find this example helpful. Both sides will agree that it is impossible for God to entertain any evil thoughts or desires. From the Calvinist's perspective, if God ordained Adam to fall, either by proxy (Lucifer fell first) or Adam's "preprogramming", then that does not make God evil. The...

Thanks for your perspective. So who caused Lucifer to fall if he was originally created good? Either he had the will to fall on his own, or God caused him to fall are the only two options that would make any sense to me.

I'm fairly new here and have seen some recent discussion on this topic. Recently I picked up Normal Geisler's "Chosen But Free". He believed that there could be a middle ground between Calvinism and Arminianism. These are a few passages in his book. This is not to say there are no mysteries in...