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  1. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    As you said Martin these verses are in the present tense so we could read them as "There is no one righteous, ALL THE TIME not even one; There is no one who understands; ALL THE TIME There is no one who is searching for God. ALL THE TIME There is none who does good, ALL THE TIME no, not one...
  2. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    You really do have a strange view of the word of God BF.
  3. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    God is gracious to all people that is why those that reject the call will be responsible for the choice they made. That is a point that those the fallow calvinism do not seem able to grasp. Do you think the ECF's only spoke on the apostasy? And what does that have to do with predestination and...
  4. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    The call is to all those that are "weary and burdened". Those that think they are to wise will reject the truth but those that humble themselves will receive the truth. God would never offer a call to which He knows no one can possibly respond. Such a Call on His part would be insincere...
  5. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Yes I know it is scripture but Heb 1:3 does not say what you need it to say BF.
  6. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Only in a calvinist's mind.
  7. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Then you should spend some time learning what the ECF's thought as they were the closest to the apostles. You say predestination and effectual (or 'limited' if you prefer) atonement is there in spades but that is only because you have read it into the text. The next two verses show the error...
  8. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    When they start with a belief based on pagan philosophy, that augustine and later calvin brought into the church, they will look for verses that they think support those beliefs even when they have to twist or take them out of context to do so. When you start from a false premise as the cults...
  9. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    What? That is not logical BF. You are saying that sinners are righteous before God.
  10. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    BF you are reading into the verse your own views but the verse does not support what you need it to say. Heb 1:3 And He is the radiance of His glory and the exact representation of His nature, and upholds all things by the word of His power. When He had made purification of sins, He sat down...
  11. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    BF you have been shown that your views do not comport with scripture but you still hold to those errant views. This verse alone shows the error of your view. 1Jn 2:2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.
  12. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Are you asking if God caused me to trust in Him then no He did not. If on the other hand if you are asking if He provided the means to know Him, creation, conviction of sin, the gospel message, etc. then yes. Man has to make the choice to either trust in or reject God. Are you suggesting that...
  13. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    What do you think free will means but to be able to make choices. "Free will is the capacity for agents to choose between different possible courses of action (aka choosing “otherwise”). This does not require the person to be able to choose anything, nor does it require the absence of other...
  14. Silverhair

    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    What do you base your claim on Martin?
  15. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Christ did not save anyone at the cross BF but by His life all are now able to be saved through faith in Him. By your logic all of humanity will be saved John 12:32.
  16. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    So do I. God foreknows all those that will freely trust in Him and those that do trust in Him are predestined to be conformed to the image of His son and will in the future be glorified with Him. Rom 8:17
  17. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Your putting the cart before the horse again BF. What those verses tell us is how one becomes one of God's elect. Sinners are only one of the elect when they are in the "Elect One" Christ Jesus through faith.
  18. Silverhair

    Are You Satisfied With President Trump?

    As I read through this thread I was surprised at how little people in the US understand what the erratic behavior of Trump has done to the trade relations the US has with the rest of the world. This video should give some food for thought. Most People Don't Know This Is Canada’s Ultimate...
  19. Silverhair

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour !

    Well it seems that you have a different understanding of those texts. Care to explain them from your calvinists view Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, Eph 1:13 In Him, you also, after listening to the message of...
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