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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    One of us rejects them, but I think you'll find (if God gives you eyes to see) that it's actually you. That is, of course, Hebrews 2:14-15. So how has Christ destroyed the devil and his works (1 John 3:8)? I don't think you know. This is your philosophy, but it is not what Scripture says...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Well that's it then. We're all doomed. 'The LORD ...... will not at all acquit the guilty' (Nahum 1:3). There is is; the plain words of God. End of story, so far as @JonC is concerned.
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    It seems hard for you to understand. The Old Testament was written in Hebrew, and the New in Greek, but you have to resort to Latin to try (and fail) to give us the meaning. In fact, propitius is an adjective, not a noun, so in any case it cannot help us to find the meaning of hilasterion...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Romans 3:25. God set Him forth as a propitiation by His blood.' What do you think that means? Do you suppose that God is not propitiated by the death of Christ? Would that not suggest a serious failure on God's part in setting Him forth to no avail, and on Christ's part if the shedding of...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Never popular with Roman Catholics, Liberals, Pelagians or Mormons
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    Defining Propitiation

    Does 2 Corinthians say or suggest Christ is the means of reconciliation? Nope. 'That God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not imputing their trespasses to them...' We are saved by what Christ has done, not by what He might do, or what we might accept. 'He Himself bore our sins...
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    Defining Propitiation

    Christ is not the means of reconciliation - He is the reconciliation (2 Cor. 5:19).
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    The Heidelberg Catechism

    Great stuff! Of course the Heidelberg catechism is a paedobaptist work. However, in 1680, a Baptist pastor called Hercules (!) Collins published a Baptist version of the Heidelberg, called the Orthodox Catechism. Highly recommended! Republished by Steve Weaver and MIchael Haykin (RBAP. ISBN...
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    Question for Baptists

    This is nonsense, as I suspect you know. I just recommend people to read the links in post #127 and to note how many times I quote from Eamonn Duffy, a Roman Catholic historian.
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    Question for Baptists

    They didn't just discourage - they actively forbade their people from reading the Bible until, possibly, 1962 and Vatican II. Have a read of some of this: The People’s Reformation (1) Setting the Scene and then, more particularly...
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    Vatican provides prayer room to visiting Muslim "scholars"

    Oh, I'm sure the Moslems will open up a space for Catholics at the grand mosque in Mecca sometime soon. Not.
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    Two Questions

    No and no (in that order ;)) First of all read John 10:17-18 and 12:23-33 because they come from John's Gospel. They show that the Lord Jesus came at the command of the Father to suffer and die upon the cross. Then read Isaiah 53:10; Mark 8:31-33; Acts 4:27-28 and Romans 3:25-26, which all show...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    What I see is just a pile of cheap and silly insults which say more about you than they do about me, and a desperate attempt to turn the subject to General vs Particular Redemption rather than Penal Substitution.
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    It does if you add verses 26 and 28 which I also referenced Well in that case we should all be really pure, because there's a lot of blood being shed by evil men all over the world. But the Bible is quite clear that it was God who set the Lord Jesus forth as a propitiation (Rom 3:25) and that...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    I think you'll find it does. ;) That is super! Why don't you tell us how you think it is done? This is gobbledegook. It may be your theory, but it is not the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. I have given a definition probably 20 times before on this board, but here we go again: The Doctrine...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Hebrews 9:22. In which case God cannot be just and the justifier of the one who believes in Jesus. If our Lord has not satisfied the justice and the righteous anger of God, you may be quite certain that you and I will have to do so ourselves.
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    Romans 3:24-26. ‘Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just...
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    Christ set forth as a Propitiation

    A week or so ago, I promised to set out a text that proved the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. Out of the wide variety available, I selected Romans 3:25-26. Of course, when I did so it proved that simply giving the bare text would not be sufficient to satisfy the opponents of the Doctrine...
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    Calvinism, Arminianism, and Provisionism?

    Yes, but people do not respond unless the Spirit opens their hearts to do so as I have shown you over and over again. 'Unless one is born again [or 'born from above'] he cannot see the kingdom of God.' How much say did you have in your first birth? The time, the place, your parents, your...
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    Calvinism, Arminianism, and Provisionism?

    Hello Dave....., I don't have much time right now, but I will just say that, in common with many of the Puritans (Most notably William Perkins), I do not see regeneration as a one-off event, but rather as a process. I think it is clear that God must open the heart of someone before he can...
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