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Sir, please stick to the topic, Hebrews 11:2. Another key to understanding Hebrews 11:2 is also presented by Galatians 3:22. Note the phrase, "to those who believe." God's confirming action, the giving of the promise demonstrates God had confirmed their faith by crediting it as...

Well I understand your post as not believing we become the righteousness of God in Him. You deny that when God credits our faith as righteousness, which occurs before He transfers us spiritually into Christ, and then, only after we are "in Him," do we become the righteousness of God through the...

1. Luke 13:24 demonstrates man, in his depraved fallen state, has the ability to seek God without the compulsion or enablement of irresistible grace. 2. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 teaches we are chosen for salvation through faith in the truth, thus our individual election is conditional. 3. 1...

Well I understand your post as not believing we become the righteousness of God in Him. You deny that when God credits our faith as righteousness, which occurs before He transfers us spiritually into Christ, and then, only after we are "in Him," do we become the righteousness of God through the...

I liked Martin's post because He encouraged thoughtful, biblically based discussion. I was not addressing any issue between Jonc and Martin.

Another key to understanding Hebrews 11:2 is also presented by Galatians 3:22. Note the phrase, "to those who believe." God's confirming action, the giving of the promise demonstrates God had confirmed their faith by crediting it as righteousness. Otherwise you are faced with the premise God...

Yes, you are correct, I was wrong, the text does have article! However, the addition or deletion of a Greek article in the English translation is often required to present the idea in English. Thus the article does not seem have any bearing upon the meaning of the verse. Hebrews 11:2 does NOT...

Yet another disruptive and diversionary post since Pauline justification is not challenged.

I did not see where you agreed with this statement, "we do not become the righteousness of God by imputation." Nuff said...

Tasso means an arrangement by mutual consent. It does not matter whether in the middle or passive voice. If in the passive voice, that means the person or people receive benefit from the action. You, Sir, have been sold a fiction. I cannot pull you out. You must actually study and find...

Here is what I believe, God credits our faith, not ourselves, as righteousness. God makes us righteous by the washing of regeneration. Therefore we do not become the righteousness of God by imputation. Are you willing to say you agree with that view?

Once again, a false claim. The Greek word is "tasso" and it means "an appointment made by mutual agreement. Why not believe 2 Peter 3:12: NASB looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be destroyed by burning, and the elements will melt with...

Right, the body of Christ is riddled with folks who do not show themselves approved, rightly dividing or correctly handling the word of truth. Nicodemus did not understand that we must be spiritually born anew, to enter the kingdom of God. Many today do not realize God must credit our faith as...

Note the implication someone questioned whether God made an error. The false insinuations are for the purpose of diversion. Returning to topic: When we look back to our history, we find professing Christians who did not have our current understanding of our physical universe. Trolls try to...

Sorry but NO. The "it" of verse 22 refers to the person's faith placed upon Christ. Same thing stated in verse 23-24. Not for Abraham's sake only was it written, that the righteousness of his faith was imputed or credited to Abraham, but for us [those with a faith like Abraham's] also to whom...

Orthodoxy refers to the generally accept view or views that people believe are correct. Thus Reformed Baptists have a set of their orthodox view, such as the TULIP, and other branches of Christianity have a differing orthodoxy. I certainly have views that do not mesh with the Calvinists or...

Two non-germane verses that actually demonstrate (1) the lost are able to hear the gospel and take its direction and put their trust in Christ, plus (2) God allows repentance to both Jews and Gentiles. Folks note how the Calvinists have diverted the thread into the abyss of endless false...

Yes, 2 Corinthians 5:21 proves imputed righteousness if malarkey, as we are made the righteousness of God only when we are transferred into Christ spiritually. Thus we undergo the washing of regeneration to become the righteousness of God.

The "it" of verse 22 is his faith, thus his faith was credited to him as righteousness. This does NOT support imputed or credited or declared righteousness of the person.

Time and again, differing posters make or seem to make this claim, we, those saved, became righteous because God imputed or declared or credited as as righteous. I believe this view is absolutely bogus. Let us consider this view from scripture. Romans 4:6 NASB just as David also speaks of...