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Me too! Ice just started falling here in NC about 15 minutes ago.

What you've stated here is about as close to the truth as I have seen. I'm around the KJVO folks continuously and I've noticed they do make claims that can't be proven. But I don't let that bother me, I use only the KJV but as you have said, not all of us talk the talk they can't prove. For me...

I may not be understanding your problem with imputed righteousness. Here's how I understand it. At the moment of conversion we are imputed with the righteousness of Christ. We are not perfect, that will not happen until body, soul and spirit of man is rejoined at the resurrection. The...

You're misunderstanding 2 Cor. 5:21, Van. Christ was made to be sin for us so that by grace through faith in Him it makes it possible for the righteousness of God to be imputed into us at conversion. Paul is giving us in this verse the means in which obtaining the righteousness of God is...

Ok, I was thinking that's what it was. It's been a while since I've met that belief. I won't argue though, it will only be bitter, I don't want that.

I'm a Dispensationalist, I believe each of the 7 letters were written to the Church in periods of time throughout history. For example, the letter written to the Church at Philadelphia was the Missionary Church that had its beginnings in the 1800"s and still continues today.

Just wondering for future reference, are you one that believes all names are written in the Book and at the beginning?

If that's the way you see it, then ok. No need to go on with this.

@37818 Why do you think Christ said this? Rev. 3:10-11 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth. Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that...

What does it mean to overcome? It means to hold on with faith to the end. That's what will keep your name in the Book.

And Christ said in vs 19 whoever takes away from the words of the Book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the Book of life. Proving mans name can be removed from the Book of Life.

I believe in eternal security as long as our faith is present. Even the backslider has not lost his salvation, that's the purpose of God's chastisement, to bring them back. It's when His correction is ignored and faith fades that man is in danger. Eventually, and only God knows, that faith...

Faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ is not a one time event of confession, we pick up that faith on a daily basis living out our faith. It's like the parable by Christ when the cares of this world overtook them and they fell away. We have a responsibility to hold our faith to the end...

Where does the righteousness imputed to man come from? There is only one place? Maybe you know of another righteousness?

We pluck ourselves out of His hand through falling back to unbelief. 2 Peter 2:20-22 "For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than...

You can disagree all you want, I'm not going to argue. Rom. 4:6 "Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works," God imputes His righteousness in the OT believer just as He does the NT believer. Believe it or not, Van!

You may as well call yourself a Calvinist, Van, Irresistible Grace, God's responsibility to keep you saved. You can just sail with no responsibility, no worries, God holds all the responsibilities.

Abraham was granted the righteousness of God before the Law existed. Man has always been saved by grace through faith, before the Law, during the Law, and after the Law. The righteousness is the same no matter the time in which man lived. When you're convinced man can't lose his salvation by...

Yep, that was about what I thought.

I guess what I'm asking is how can a righteous man turn from his righteousness? What does that mean? Is there any example in Scripture of how this can be explained?