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Published by the American Bible Society, HARDLY a KJVO publisher. So if the Muslims produce an Arabic or Farsic translation of the King James Bible or even an NIV, does that make everyone that reads the KJV Muslims? Mormons use the KJV so I guess that makes us all guilty by association. The...

I didn't say ALL of those versions have the Apocrypha in them, I said there are version of those version that still include them. If you bothered to take a few short minutes to look at the facts instead of curling hands over keyboard and inserting stupidity (internet slang for foot in mouth...

What a bunch of revisionist biased DUNG. First of all, it is highly hypocritical of you or any other KJV critic to say anyting about the Apocrypha considering that modern translations like the ESV, NIV, RSV, and NASB STILL INCLUDE the Apocrypha in their "Bibles". Daniel Wallace's "NET"...

It wasn't a threat in England to have the Apocrypha included because the Protestants knew it was not inspired. Quite different as time went on, it wasn't a good idea to leave it in because it gave the impression that it may be part of Scripture. That is a silly argument since it does nothing to...

DHK, "I did read that the NT was only about God's elect". No, the NT is only about the apostle Paul being elect :) http://dorightchristians.wordpress.com/2013/08/19/proof-that-god-loved-only-paul/

Jovert made an observation that is to me one of the most logical and brutal critiques of the anti KVJO position that in nearly 30 years of studying manuscripts I never thought of. If the KJVO critics are CERTAIN that the KJV is full of "errors", then there must be an absolute standard in which...

What I think is absolutely rib shattering funny is that nobody that has slapped all of the KJVO bias on me has ever stopped to think, that since Hebrew is my native language, and I have stated over and over again that I was raised on the Masoretic Text, am I really KJVO? I guess fools can't tell...

Here is the symbol that John Calvin used for Geneva. http://s43.photobucket.com/user/tlthe5th/media/Uni-Geneve-seal.gif.html Notice the Roman Catholic Pope's "Key to the Kingdom" and the Catholic use of the occultic Phoenix. You really need to learn more about the truth behind Calvin. I know...

The Apocrypha was placed in between the OT and NT and was only included because of it's historical significance. The KJV translators in their list of translation rules stated quite a few times they did not believe the Apocrypha was Scripture. Beliefs of translators are not always a valid...

Wow, talk about begging the question. Common sense (which seems to be lacking VERY MUCH in followers of Calvinism) should tell you that if Paul was a Calvinist, he would have endorsed baby sprinkling, the "spiritual presence" of the Holy Spirit in the sacraments, amillennenialism, and the murder...

Why don't you and Norris make up your mind, was it 85% from the Geneva Bible, or 80% from the Tyndale version? It can't be both. [personal attack snipped].

Wow, you freely and quite IGNORANTLY ascribe the KJVO to a cultic origin, and then whine when I show that Calvinism was derived from a murderous slave trading, baby sprinkling heretic that based his theology off of another murderous baby sprinkling heretic, that got his ideas from Gnostics...

If the Catholics believe the KJV was their work, why don't they ever sell it or recommend it? Here's a list of Bibles that the Catholic Church recommends http://www.catholicbiblesblog.com/2009/01/esv-w-apocrypha-deuterocanonicals-is.html • Douay-Rheims Bible • Revised...

I think you may have missed my point but actually proved it in the process. The question about previous English translations was not about how many KJV translations there were or how many English translations existed which were based on the TR, but how many OPPOSING English translations existed...

Of course it was not synonymous and that was the point. You relegated the preservation of Scripture to providence, but said that same preservation of Scripture would not be miraculous. Thus if God's preservation were to be providential, how could anything that God does of which is providential...

And yet it was turned into a Calvinist thread not only by the suggestive title, but the second Harold offered what he thought Arminians should say about this, but of course, as usual, when a Calvinist posts a thread about Calvinism it doesn't get moved. You can go ahead and ban me any day now...

Sure if you will list those who took an ANTI KJV stance before 1970. I'll just start with one, the obvious one..Ruckman (and I DO have an entire list of KJVO preachers before 1970). In fact, a researcher that despises Ruckman wrote an entire thesis just to prove that the KJVO did not originate...

So God offers providence that is not miraculous? I fail to see how that is "well put".

The Japanese have a translation from the KJV called the Meiji. Now since I don't read Japanese, I don't know how closely the translators followed the KJV or the TR. The KJV has also been translated into about 800-1200 different languages (some partial, some NT only). I'll ask you this C4K. If...

How many different English versions were there before the English landed in America? How many English version did the scholars at Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Cambridge, Westminster et al have to debate over? Does it really make sense to claim that the KJV debate was a non issue in early...