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Hmmm. You left out the part about demon activity ceasing. This is your view. Don't blame Baptists. And they would be appalled at the clumsy way you argue cessation (they don't use the term cessessionalism--you made that up). Van, if I were you, i'd stop arguing and start listening.

I think most Baptists would be appalled by some of the things you've presented.

This is confused thinking. The original Church was not the same as the Catholic church that went astray in their soteriology. And the reformers did not successfully talk the Catholic church into changing their soteriology, so they branched off and formed the protestant denominations. They're...

God loves the world, but as Y says, he has a set-apart love for his elect. Whether you're coming from an arminian or calvinist perspective of the elect, God saves them, and condemn the rest. Both are meritless, so it would be impossible to say believers are not favored.

Ron Rhodes wrote a great book: The Truth Behind Ghosts, Mediums, and Psychic Phenomena He is hands down my favorite end-times author, but he's also a great apologist, and very good on this subject. I think you'll find it a blessing. All these shows on TV, both documentary and fiction, are...

I think your position has been pretty clear. You're claiming the ceasing of gifts at the close of the cannon includes the ceasing of possession, and are requiring proof otherwise. But you've not even provided evidence of anything ceasing at the close of the cannon, let alone demon possession...

And Van, we're all waiting for your positive case that demonic possession has ceased. Tick tock.

Claiming victory yet again, with no support for his view whatsoever.

Claiming victory yet again. :) Delusion. I don't think anyone has any idea where you're getting this. False teachers...... like those that deny the dangers of the occult.

It's the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR). Andrew Strom specifically focuses on the laughter and jerking manifestations claimed to be from the Holy Spirit. He believes they are same manifestation occurring in kundalini cults. Here's a comparison.

This one:

Especially the New Apostolic Reformation.

I know a gentleman who ran a psych ward, with some very extreme cases. He wasn't a Christian. I asked him, however, about cases where people thought they were possessed, or acted like they were possessed. He said they were rare, but did exist, and the ones he talked to raised the hairs on...

Sounds like some demonic advice. I warn my kids often about the above. I hope all Christians parents will. These warnings, BTW, are in the NT as well as the OT.

It's not a falsehood. "I provided my view, waiting for a response" is simply ignoring my response. Huh? You mean like the view that you can mess around with the occult and not get burned? Yes, I'm very concerned about this false teaching you're espousing. They are cheap counterfeits, is...

Yeah. This claiming of victory after every post is a recurring theme. It gets in the way of the dialog. Which I addressed. There is no passage in the NT regarding cessation of anything in the church age. The reference by Paul was to the perfect, which is referring to the return of Christ...

I'm just wondering, Van, why you're the only one that seems to see the obviousness of your cases. And why you think it's an ad hominem attack of someone doesn't see your case? You've not made a positive argument for the case of cessation of demon possession. The fact that it is mentioned all...

Given you're one of the levelist heads here, I'm wondering if we should all take what you're taking. .........as long as it's not hydroxychloroquine. :eek:

I haven't seen you make the positive case yet. And frankly, Van, you rarely do.

Nah, I think he is. Steven's a pretty reasonable guy, and this incident has a few variables to wade through. I do believe there are a few bad-apple cops, like in the video here. There are bad police that need to be held accountable. What's so disturbing is the wholesale judgment of all...