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The point is as the acts of one affecting many, Are all saved becaus of Christ or did He make a way whereby we cam participate? Adam did not make us participate but started a system of sin 1Co 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. or Adam, physical death...

Eze 4:4 ¶ Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity. Eze 4:6 And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the...

first, I do not need the verses printed, just provide the reference and you statement Melchisidek was a priest of the Most HIGH GOD Gen 14:18 Salvation is of the Jews, and Jesus If you deny scripture without seeking the meanings , you are on a slippery slope. If you believde only in...

... So a aborted babe can be saved without being a human? What is he then when saved , in your opinion

no, sin and condemnation already happened . Trafitiomal thinkimg says God put two innocent humans in the same place and time as the arch enemy already condemned That is not right

i quoted myself Why am I condemned already if there is no sin nature?

Where did we get a " predilection to sin"? Psa 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

i have shown you the context of Jeremiah. There was only light in heaven, he was expelled into darkness which had to be created for that purpose. They are not in hell They are here, Peter uses Tartaroo translated hell, It is the innermodst keep of the place of the dead in Greek. Satan is...

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it is not changing the doctrine, the doctrine has been changed. To diminsh God's glory actually. He was mentioning the entire event not one time. in Jeremiah. Satan and others was here "chained in darkness" before the earth was foremed. So much so that the shouted(in surprise, imo) at the...

It actually means no pasture, a hard way to make a living for a shepherd The "biblical " answers are in conflict with scripture. They (some) are man's traditions. We have been fed a bias toward that the human condition is more important than the spiritual. Original sin is man's error from man's...

Darkness does exist in Heaven and there was no sin before Satan, Rev 22:5 And there shall be no night there; and they need no candle, neither light of the sun; for the Lord God giveth them light: and they shall reign for ever and ever Yet they were expelled into darkness when they sinned...

It refers to the entire history , the earth is specifily mention as being void, almost a quote of Gen 1:1

Then you are prepared to say all infants do not go to Heaven but to hell?

Where was darkness before Lucifer's fall? Where was it after?

Ninevah is mention here, the earth is mentioned in Jeremiah

I agree , we did not get our sin nature from Adam but we have it If the aborted and infant deaths are not condemned and go yo heaven , they cannot be cobdemned by original sin 2Sa 12:22¶ And he said, While the child was yet alive, I fasted and wept: for I said, Who can tell whether GOD will...

let us specify, does original sin condemn you?

reconcile your statenment with this verse: Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be...

The potential to sin is not a sin. If you are saying God created you knowing you would sin in order to be saved, there is an insult to God and error in doctrine The physical creation was good not moral . The physical world cannot sin, Sin is spiritual, but the physical can suffer the curse...