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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Are those in 2 Thess 2:12 the same ones in 2 Thess 2:13? 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to...
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Ask yourself. You said Jesus only made Salvation possible. That's saying God only made Salvation possible. So who actually makes it a reality?
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Are you? You said Jesus only made Salvation possible.
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Lol no it's not., in fact Barnes wrote: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/2_thessalonians/2-13.htm
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Maybe the poster is not aware that Christ is God Matt 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    See 2 Thess 2:13 seems you don't receive the testimony of scripture
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    That's the beginning Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Chosen from the beginning 2 Thess 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of...
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Christ is God and you said He made it only possible. Do you believe Christ is God?
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    All times by nature
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    You making unproven claims. Peter writes about Christ blood redemption right here 1 Peter 1:18-19. Why would he change in his second epistle?
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    That's not what Rom 3:11 said 11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Wow so who actually saves since Christ according to you only made it possible?
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    Well you have not proved it, since earlier Peter specifically wrote they were redeemed by the precious blood of Christ 1 Peter 1:18-19 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your...
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    So in the beginning of Gen 1:1 it's before man was created. The elect are chosen to salvation before man was created
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    Here's the beginning Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth
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    If God is Not Sovereign, Then There is No Grace

    No God gives the conversion in giving repentance
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    Redeems those He died for from the Prison of Unbelief !

    Titus 2:14 14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works. To be redeemed from all iniquity does include being redeemed from unbelief, the prison of unbelief. It should be remembered that to be in...
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    Study 2 Thessalonians 2:13

    In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. Here's the beginning Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. They were Chosen at this point.
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