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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Yes that describes the elect in a spiritual lost condition by nature
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    If You Want to Be Sanctified, Rehearse Your Identity

    Obvious you lack understanding
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    You have missed the point. Jesus states who hears the word of God Jn 8:47 the word He covers all ethnicities lol
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    In doing so, He is stating a Truth, a fact as who hears the word of God. The saved. Did you read the commentary I provided ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    Thats false, like saying we all are goats until trusting in Christ, then we become sheep. Thats as false as saying there's a Santa claus
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    The bible to you doesnt say a lot of things.
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    How can one hear the word of God if they not of God ? Jesus says this as to who hears Jn 8:47 47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    He wasnt the only lost person He came to save.
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    You just confirmed what I stated.
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    I dont, i can care less about your reason
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    If one cant believe by his self without divine intervention, how can they hear in order to believe ? That would be a contradiction
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Frankley I dont understand what you saying, nor do I believe you understand what you saying friend.
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    You just agreed that if man by nature isnt drawn by the Father he cant come to Christ and believe. You still believe that or not ?
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    The elect. Not the vessels of wrath
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    No he cant, and he will be Judged for all his sins against God if he isnt elect.
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    No person can come to Christ by their own freewill ! 3

    By nature man is in a hopeless situation friend.
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    Thats right, jew and gentile are of the vessels of wrath and the vessels of mercy. The point is, you cant transfer from one group to the other, we had that destiny predetermined by God which group we are in. Well the elect from a spiritual and practical perspective are born lost, that's why...
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    It includes jews and gentiles as vessels of wrath, just like it includes jews and gentiles as vessels of mercy who are called Rom 9:22-24 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the...
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    Where does God's Wrath Go?

    The vessels of wrath being fitted for destruction will always be objects of Gods wrath, they are presently under His wrath and shall never see life, eternal life Jn 3:36 36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of...
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