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    Where is God's preserved word in the Original Langauges?

    The KJV is the word of God in English in the same sense or in the same way that the pre-1611 English Bibles such as the Geneva Bible are and in the same sense or in the same way that later English Bibles such as the NKJV are. Psa 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a...
  2. J

    What does this scripture mean and how do you interpret it?

    Psalm 12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. What is your opinion/ interpretation of purified seven times? is the KJV this 7th purification?
  3. J

    Where is God's preserved word in the Original Langauges?

    Sometimes the Holy Spirit does things like this and causes scriptures to be referenced in different places with different wording, does not mean he was using the LXX . Consider the differences in Psalm 18 and the song recorded in 2nd Samuel 22
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    as confirmed by Jerome, there were a number of various Latin editions of the New Testament which differed in both translation and content before and around 405 AD (when Jerome finished his Vulgate). Most of these we do not have. Two, as pointed out by Dr. John Wordsworth (who edited and...
  5. J

    Where is God's preserved word in the Original Langauges?

    what is considered the best extant greek and hebrew copies..?
  6. J

    Where is God's preserved word in the Original Langauges?

    I just have a hard time with trusting textual criticism, How can you preach from any bible, when you don't have 100 percent confidence, that EVERY word is God's word, what if you preach and make a point on something that is not scripture? I'm just having a crisis I suppose.
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    Where is God's preserved word in the Original Langauges?

    In accordance with Psalm 12 and Matthew 4:4 where can I find the "every" "preserved" word of God in the original languages? And can you really stand up and preach from a bible that you're not 100 percent sure every word is God's word, and still have a clean conscience? I'm really fed up...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    I'm still waiting for your answer on what you would consider the most reliable greek text to be trusted today? Also I think I am just going to agree to disagree, for every quote you find, I find my own that says otherwise. We could do this all night but I don't really have more time.
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    Erasmus had knowledge of many manuscripts other than those he used for his first edition. Erasmus “began studying and collating NT MSS and observing thousands of variant readings in preparation for his own edition” (Eldon Jay Epp, “Decision Points in New Testament Textual Criticism,” Studies in...
  10. J

    Question for those who use modern translations.

    Logos just curious as to what you believe to be the most reliable Greek text today if it's not the Textus Receptus?
  11. J

    Question for those who use modern translations.

    5) Burgon Believed That For an "Authoritative Revision of the Greek Text" They Were "Not Yet Mature" in His Day. He wrote: ". . . an authoritative revision of the Greek text will have to precede any future revision of the English of the New Testament. Equally certain is it that for such an...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    Only 4 Manuscripts of Revelation 16:5 Are From Before the 10th Century Did you know? Only 4 manuscripts of Revelation 16:5 exist from before the 10th century. The 3 earliest witnesses of Revelation 16:5 do not even agree. A look at the textual history of Revelation 16:5 will show that the...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    BURGON’S RESEARCH INTO THE TEXT OF SCRIPTURE THROUGH CHURCH HISTORY HAS, IN SOME WAYS, NEVER BEEN EQUALED. THIS IS PARTICULARLY TRUE OF HIS RESEARCH INTO THE QUOTATIONS FROM THE SCRIPTURES OF CHURCH LEADERS OF ANTIQUITY. To discover what Scripture text the ancient church leaders were using...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    “Through his study of the writings of Jerome and other Church Fathers Erasmus became very well informed concerning the variant readings of the New Testament text. Indeed almost all the important variant readings known to scholars today were already known to Erasmus more than 460 years ago and...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    "Nothing was more important at the dawn of the Reformation than the publication of the Testament of Jesus Christ in the original language. Never had Erasmus worked so carefully. ‘If I told what sweat it cost me, no one would believe me.’ HE HAD COLLATED MANY GREEK MSS. of the New Testament, and...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    It is true that Erasmus had in his actual possession only a few Greek manuscripts when he composed the first edition of his Greek New Testament, but he had examined a large number of other manuscripts, both Latin and Greek, and he had compared these with many ancient Bible translations and with...
  17. J

    Question for those who use modern translations.

    Also can you give me an example of where that are readings found in no Greek NT Manuscript?
  18. J

    Question for those who use modern translations.

    The So-Called "Majority Greek Text of Hodges-Farstad" 1. Papyrus Fragments-- 8 out of 81 = 10% of the evidence 2. Uncials-= 4 out of 267 = 1% of the evidence 3. Cursives- 414 out of 2764 = 15% of the evidence 4. Lectionaries-- 0 out of 2143 = 0% of the evidence Total MSS: 426 out...
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    Question for those who use modern translations.

    The Revision Revised by Dean Burgon. Dean Burgon did a lot of research into the early church father's quotations.
  20. J

    Question for those who use modern translations.

    let's try to stay on topic please. I am not interested in linguistic arguments because those are just gnats, im concerned with the textual issue.
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