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  1. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    If you do not know for sure, you have never been born-again.
  2. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    So what, He keeps coming and going that you need to keep taking the bread and wine to keep Him charged up? Ridiculous! No I believe as Jesus said He would give me the Comforter and in Him Christ is always with me, I became one with Christ when I was born-again.
  3. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    You seem to hold to a different doctrine than Herbert and Utilyan. They have been arguing that a person doesn't of necessity need to do anything but love to enter into heaven, a person doesn't even need to believe in Jesus Christ or confess He is Lord. Is the body of the RCC divided on this issue?
  4. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Asking "could God do it" is not the test of doctrine. What Scripture states the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ will be consecrated into the bread and the wine and for what purpose?
  5. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    As you can clearly see by the responses from a couple of Catholics here on this board, faith in Jesus Christ and confessing He is Lord is not necessary for salvation.
  6. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    When you eat of the bread and drink of the wine do you see and taste flesh and blood?
  7. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    "Bound"? Or else what? Tell me why I should bind myself to the RCC's said biblical Sacraments? What happens to me if I don't?
  8. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Herbert, You make post defending such things as baptismal regeneration as a requirement for entering into the Kingdom of Heaven and at the same time defend "good" Jews and Muslims as entering into Heaven without out being baptized nor even having to believe in Jesus Christ at all. You are very...
  9. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    I am grateful the board has allowed our Catholic friends to stay and debate their doctrines here awhile. Until the past few weeks of listening and questioning, I kinda had the attitude that non Catholic Christians were being a bit to harsh with the Christians of the RCC tradition. I now see how...
  10. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    I don't think so. Jesus included God's interpretation in His presentation, no need for any private interpretation. As Always, Scripture interprets Scripture for us. In this case within the same reading. Answer a question for me, when Jesus said "This is My body" and "This is my blood" was it...
  11. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Herbert, calm down a bit. I was not patronizing you. I was giving you an example of a Christian who is preaching the Word of God to a person who may not have heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I used you for the purpose of helping you understanding how it would be presented as though you were...
  12. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Here is the fallacy in your argument; It is the Scripture, God's Word, that tells us who is saved and who is not. It is not up for an opinion. God took that "opinion" option out of our hands. We are commanded to "preach the word". This is what you are refusing to do. I do not say who is damned...
  13. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    All of your post oppose Faith in Jesus Christ altogether. Show me one post of yours where you said faith in Jesus Christ is needed for salvation, just one. You can't do it. You consider faith in the blood of Christ an unholy thing. Simple test; Do you believe a person can hear and reject Jesus...
  14. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Tell us why you are against the Faith part. Your doctrine is Love Alone. I would be interested in knowing how you obey the command of Jesus to go out into the world and make disciples of Him without including Faith in Jesus Christ in your presentation. Mark 16 "And he said unto them, Go ye...
  15. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Can you explain how you obey the Scripture if you stop short of doing what God's Word asks you to do? 1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." You say you refuse to presume to know...
  16. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    That depends on the topic. We agree God is a Trinity. You may not be so far apart from our Calvinistic brothers in Christ as you might think. They hold to the doctrine that one only believes and confesses Jesus is Lord if God causes them to do so. So in a way, your doctrine of God randomly...
  17. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Well let me ask you a question I have asked other Catholics. Do you believe, according to the scripture, a Jew or a Muslim, who after hearing the Gospel rejects Jesus is Lord and Christ, will still be saved as long as they love God (whatever that means to them) and they love their neighbors...
  18. steaver

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    You know, I read all these arguments from Catholics as to why the RCC should be the final authority based on history as well as on what the Scriptures may tell us on the subject. I could say, 'sure I see your point, I suppose you could be right', based upon your historical arguments. The...
  19. steaver

    'Faith Alone' and James 2:24.

    In the same way you miss most of the NT and what Jesus and the Apostles had to say you miss what I had to say, that is love is the evidence of Christ in you. I know you do not understand what that means. Until a person understands their own righteousness is as filthy rags and that they are a...
  20. steaver

    'Faith Alone' and James 2:24.

    And there is your error exposed and summed up in one sentence. The bible and I say it must be both faith in Jesus Christ AND love as the evidence there is true faith in Jesus Christ. Your doctrine cast out Jesus Christ and makes faith in His works and sayings a worthless thing.
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