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  1. steaver

    How To Get To Heaven When You Die

    What if a person meant it with all their heart once, but then later in life decides it's just a bunch of bunk?
  2. steaver

    The Eternal Purpose of God in Christ

    Not only does he not have the option to complain, Calvinist have always declared that those who are lost want nothing to do with forgiveness of sins and submission to God thus they would not and could not come to God and complain in the first place. But the part the Calvinist always leaves...
  3. steaver

    Any Dispensationalist in the house?

    Ezekiel lays everything out that will occur in this temple. By you asking "what's the purpose?" sounds like you are disagreeing with God that (1) the temple is yet to be built (2) that everything Ezekiel has said would happen in the temple will happen (3) that it is even necessary at all nor has...
  4. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Predestined to conquer what? Unbelief? The only thing that qualifies one for eternal life is faith in Jesus Christ.
  5. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Why would Jesus tell a saint (one who believes on Him) that they must conquer? Conquer what? Faith? They already have faith. Are you suggesting that one is saved by faith plus works, or faith plus no sinning?
  6. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    It appeared you missed or didn't read my answer since you asked the same question I just answered. Not sure what you mean by "living like Lucifer". Those born of God do not live like Lucifer if you mean in rebellion against God. Having God the very part of your new birth would negate that idea...
  7. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. "psyche" is translated soul 58x, life 40x, heart 3x and mind 1x in the KJV bible. YOU are a living soul, a PERSON. Here are some other popular...
  8. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Ahh, I believe that is what I have been saying when I tried to get you to understand born-again. "psyche" is translated soul 58x, life 40x, heart 3x and mind 1x in the KJV bible. YOU are a living soul, a PERSON. Here are some other popular translations.... "you can be sure that whoever...
  9. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    It does not say "depart from faith". It says "depart from THE faith". Huge difference. There really is no grey area about this passage. Paul clearly defines departing from THE faith. James also is speaking about doctrine and sin. Saving a soul from death could be speaking of physical death...
  10. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Remember everyone is lost until they become born of God. There are several examples given us in the scriptures of false prophets and teachers being among the church, the body of Christ. Not everyone sitting in church or even on the membership role is saved. "But there were false prophets also...
  11. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    What is your explanation on these statements brother vooks? "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord". Ro 6 "For the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.". Ro 11
  12. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Why does the Holy Spirit EXPRESSLY speak about the born of God being recreated as one with Jesus Christ? Christ in you!!! Each "warning" you see in scripture has an application which must be kept in the context being expressed. Let's look at the first passage you bring up.... "Now the...
  13. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    The born of God can have lack of faith moments, we still carry along the flesh which is weak. But we are focusing on if one can stop believing Jesus Christ is Lord while they have Jesus Christ the Lord always witnessing from within. He lives in you, you cannot escape Him nor would you have any...
  14. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    You have to begin with what it cannot be. Regeneration is Christ becoming one with you in Spirit. The only reason you cry out to the Father is due to the Spirit being one with you. It's not the old you and the Spirit can't move my along side. You are a new creation. This cannot be undone for...
  15. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Ok then. That makes all your questions irrelevant. Since you know Jesus Christ is in you, there is no way you could ever stop believing He is God. Bc you have a personal knowledge living in you which you cannot escape nor would ever desire to escape.
  16. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    This is a back and forth debate. You have to answer my questions too. Do you know as a matter of personal experience the Spirit of Jesus Christ is in you? If you do not, then there is no way you can understand this issue.
  17. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    Departing from the Faith has been played out in churches since Christ returned to heaven. It is those who investigate the Faith, enjoy the fellowship for awhile, yet never come to the point of receiving the Holy Spirit promised. When they find out the real cost of discipleship they bail. Study...
  18. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    If you do not understand born-again, then you are yet in your sins. Christian faith is a know so faith in Christ. It is not a I hope it is true kinda faith. I have a personal knowledge that Jesus Christ is God. How could I ever stop believing in that which I have personal knowledge of being an...
  19. steaver

    Perseverance of Saints is.....actually it is Eternal INsecurity

    When you talk about "truly saved" you must first define what that means. One must understand "born-again". Being regenerated is God creating a new person inside out. No one having been born of God can undo this. If you believe you can be condemned to hell after becoming a child of God then you...
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