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  1. B

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 3

    Yes it does. His death/stripes brings about our salvation. I showed you what a commentator said here The healing is a result of this 1 Pet 2:24 24 Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye...
  2. B

    Christ the risen Saviour, not potential Saviour! 3

    Thats salvation, reconciliation. Isa 53 5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
  3. M

    PSA Justice vs Biblical Justice

    If you want to be pedantic, Christ crucified brings about reconciliation. But I am not aware of having written that the cross makes salvation possible. I may perhaps have done so in a moment of madness, but I have been all through this thread and I can't find it. Here are two examples of what...
  4. JonC

    PSA Justice vs Biblical Justice

    Isaiah 53:5 says that Jesus was pierced for our offenses, crushed for our wrongdoings, that the punishment for our well-being was laid upon Him and by His wounds we are healed. On this we agree. But the ultimate question is whether PSA is enough of a departure from God's Word to negate...
  5. Dave G

    PSA Justice vs Biblical Justice

    Question for you, if I may: According to the Scriptures, what is the full punishment that is due sinners who disobey the Lord and refuse to repent of their willful and evil deeds? Here's some of what I see: " and to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from...
  6. JonC

    PSA Justice vs Biblical Justice

    It is not a secular philosophy but the context is secular. That is a verse many corrupt by expecting an English translation from the context - they misuse the English word "soul", which is not in the part of the verse you quote...the verse says "it shall die" referring back to הַנֶּ֥פֶשׁ which...
  7. M

    PSA Justice vs Biblical Justice

    I'm not sure that 'the soul that sins shall die' is a secular judicial philosophy. The good news is that the Lord Jesus has willingly taken upon Himself our sins and the punishment due to us (Isaiah 53:5 etc.) and that as a result we are indeed reconciled to God (Romans 5:6-9).
  8. DaveXR650

    When Understanding the Cross

    Yes. This idea that @JonC seems to like, that being that the atonement as we understand it violates the nature of God being just rather than providing the reason for it's necessity is a perfect illustration of the dangers of private revelation, and exegesis of scripture, without any concern for...
  9. M

    When Understanding the Cross

    Well, we're all in big trouble then! 'As it is written: "There is none righteous, no, not one!"' It looks like we need a Saviour! But it isn't going to be Jesus. :Frown Unless, of course the Bible is true (Isaiah 53:5-6)! :D
  10. JonC

    Disagreements about the Atonement

    I didn't. I started it with post #5. I actually was trying to discuss a point he and Martin brought up. I did it, but post 1 should have been post 5. No clue how that happened. You are distracting from the actual subject. Where we end up on our view of Atonement depends on where we...
  11. M

    Disagreements about the Atonement

    One of the stranger features of @JonC's theology is that he seems to be clearer on what other people believe than he is about what he himself believes. I don't recall using the word "accountability" in any of my posts but that has not deterred him from claiming that I believe it. However, let's...
  12. JonC

    1JN.2:2...A.W.Pink

    I absolutely agree with thise passages. I d0 not agree with what men have told you those passages "really" mean. The blood Chriat shed for us is more valuable, acvomplished more, than you are willing to admit. It was really completed on the Cross. Man was truly reconciled to God, not just...
  13. Alan Dale Gross

    1JN.2:2...A.W.Pink

    8; Hebrews 10:14; 14 For by one offering he hath perfected forever them that are sanctified. 1 Peter 1:18–19; 18 Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; 19 But with the...
  14. JonC

    Snuggling With Satan?

    We all need reconciliation as evidenced by those sins.Yes, He was wounded for our transgressions. He bore our sins. By His stripes we are healed. For in subjecting all things to him, He left nothing that is not subject to him, because of His suffering death crowned with glory and honor, so...
  15. M

    Snuggling With Satan?

    Not “just” for personal sins, but all we needed reconciliation for, absolutely including personal sins. Isaiah 53:5 (KJV) But he [was] wounded for our transgressions, [he was] bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace [was] upon him; and with his stripes we are healed. 1 Peter...
  16. Z

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    Another post broadcasting the truth ogf God, thanks Martin As a person drifts away from the biblical revelation that all must answer to God's Holy law, it is not too farin the future where they will drift and say hell does not exist, because there is no need to punish sin at all! Your posts are...
  17. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    It is, of course, in the text - several times. You just won't accept them which is your problem, not mine. However, see below. And I have asked you what the Bible says and you can't tell me. It is very poor theology to demand a verse that proves something. As I have asked you before, why...
  18. JonC

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This, @DaveXR650 , is what I was talking about. Penal Substitution theorists want to be in agreement with other positions. They use multi-faceted diamond as an example. BUT they have to redefine other positions in order to agree with them. Take Christus Victor that @Martin Marprelate...
  19. M

    An Alternate View (to the Penal Substitution Theory of Atonement

    This is exactly right. The Christus Victor theory is correct as far as it goes. Who believes in Christus Loser? But it cannot explain how God can be just in justifying sinners. It is incomplete without the Doctrine of Penal Substitution. So the Biblical position is to agree that Christ did...
  20. M

    The Enemies Of The Cross of Christ:

    I have no time to write as much as I would wish. If it is @JonC's purpose to avalaunch me with posts, he is succeeding. However, I will quickly respond to this: You mean like, quoting the Bible. Well yes, I do that. Guilty as charged. Surprise, surprise! You mean apart from Romans 3:25-26...
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